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This may be true in the US, but not here. Our history of subways, streetcars, and buses makes us different. I've asked many Torontonians this exact same question, and the majority simply do not care. I'm a railfan myself, so I know what bias is.

That's BS. When my friends and I go to the Ex, we don't choose the Bathurst streetcar over the Dufferin bus because it's a streetcar -- instead, we take Dufferin because the route is faster and much more direct. Only the railfans and the Steve Munros of this world give a crap as to whether...

I couldn't agree more.

Yeah, I do drive on Finch and I don't see a problem. You can widen the road and add in bus lanes at a much lower cost. There's nothing unique about Finch that requires LRT -- it's no different than, say, Steeles.

On the street! That stretch of Eglinton doesn't even need LRT -- why are we spending millions of dollars per km to build nothing more than a gold-plated "bus" service that uses steel wheels?

That also makes it a perfect street for a bus.

Transit City will be a disaster. Construction will drag on, disruption to the surface will be severe, cars won't be able to cross the ROW between intersections, riders will complain of fewer stops and longer walks, and the new service won't be much faster than buses when you factor in the...

Railfanism in transportation planning is a big no-no. This is why Steve Munro has zero credibility in my book when it comes to being objective and impartial wrt mode (bus, lrt, subway). Don't make the same mistake. The streetcars either stay or go for other reasons, not because they're...

The 60s were a lot better than now -- that's for sure. We actually built roads and subways back then, and the music was actually good.

I would use TC's $10B to bury and expand the Gardiner in a tunnel.

Leased for 3 bill for 99 years.

So it really is $100 billion? ... Holy Mother of God! And I thought Wikipedia was just garbage, as usual. I had to stop using the 407 -- the tolls are totally ridiculous now, but I'll say this, nothing beats that road wrt speed and convenience. Apparently the province retained the option to...

At first, I didn't believe it either -- maybe they meant 100 million?

The Queen Streetcar should be trashed -- if it moves any slower, it'll be backing up. Aunt Jemima's thick maple syrup runs faster than the 501.

Do you have any idea how much surgery costs?

Driving is sustainable -- it's population growth in the GTA that isn't. From an operations/captial expense point-of-view, the 407 is more sustainable than transit -- it requires no operating subsidy, and if the gov't hadn't foolishly leased it out, the tolls would have fully covered its...

Not cheap, but still cheaper than transit. Did you guys actually know that while it only cost the gov't $1.6B to build the original 407, it cost them close to $100B over a 20-year period to acquire all the land that it sits on? If we could build $100 billion worth of subways and if everyone...

Health care is a different animal -- there is no alternative. With transit, I have an alternative ... my car. That's why they won't declare transit an essential service. That 10 billion dollars would go a long way to building more hospitals, hiring more doctors and nurses, buying more MRI...

Stating that we cannot cost-effectively improve transit in the suburbs to a level that is competitive with the automobile is not hypocrisy. Go waste 10 bill on TC and then come back and let's look at the overall difference ... huge expense, small improvement. We're better off pumping that 10...

We look pitiful compared to the others.