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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    CNC News: "Porter Airlines is floating the idea of a passenger levy the company says will help cover city expenses if the runway at Billy Bishop airport is extended." When expansion proposal first introduced to City Council, nobody was talking about these additional expenses and Porter...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Similarly, as per secret agreements between TPA & Porter, if expansion of the airport is approved, City of Toronto may be on the hook to cover the costs of providing required safe access infrastructure to the airport, which may cost $300m. As TPA refuses to release its Master Plan, even City of...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Even if all councilors agree, it is close to impossible to shut down the airport as TPA added a poison pill in its agreement with Porter Airlines in 2006, without consent of City of Toronto: The Globe and Mail, November 06, 2006: ... In order to attract the backers needed to get Porter...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    According to Environmental Noise Guideline issued by Ontario Ministry of the Environment indoor aircraft noise limit given for living/dining/den areas of residences, hospitals, schools, nursing/retirement homes and daycare centers is "NEF 5", which is approximately Leq, 24hr 36-39dBA. As per...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    I heard similar arguments but never be able to find a technical or environmental document supporting it. I would be very interested to read one if exists.
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Every airport has its own limitations and own NEF contours. Best approach is try to limit or ban residential development within or above NEF 30 contour.
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Health Impacts Associated with Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport Expansion November 25, 2013 Report from the Medical Officer of Health Recommendations The Medical Officer of Health recommends that: 1. The Board of Health recommend that City Council plan for the most...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    In my opinion, shutting down Gardiner is not feasible at this moment as we do not have any other meaningful alternative, so it would be totally silly to ask City of Toronto to shut it down. However, there are organizations and individuals with some interesting ideas pertaining to the...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Another interesting fact from London city airport is they are actually using "real" noise exposure values to determine the impact instead of doing some mathematical hocus pocus as TPA: Noise and Track Keeping (NTK) The noise levels produced by aircraft arriving and departing from LCA are...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    It is also more strictly monitored and controlled. Taken from updated (2009) regulations of London City Airport: The existing approved operating hours have been maintained under the 2009 planning approval. The Airport is permitted to operate flights between the following hours: i) 06.30...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    No it is stupid. It is not nimbysim to demand a healthy living environment, especially if you are living in a area classified as residential. Last time I checked, Waterfront was a residential and noise sensitive area and City of Toronto has a legal obligation to provide a healthy living...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    We do, may be not as directly as you mention, but we do. TPA is funneling $20 per passenger to finance development of an airport which serves almost entirely ONE private company. If those passengers use Pearson Airport, than that money would be used to finance development of Pearson Airport...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    This is a very common and very wrong argument. I moved into area after carefully reviewing the tripartite agreement and NEF contours published by TPA. According to both, my unit remains in the "noise sensitive" zone, even further than the quietest NEF 25 contour. Therefore, technically I...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Downtown location provides an advantage, no doubt. However with Union-Pearson express it won't be as significant. Also with proposed expansion probably it would take more time to reach BB Airport from Bay Street that Person too. People like Porter because they don't have to wait long...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    From the staff report: Toronto Public Health (TPH) retained Golder Associates Ltd. to conduct a Health Impact Assessment (HIA), which examined the potential health implications of the BBTCA’s current operations as well as potential expansion to include jets. Highlights of the findings are...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Porter's or Bombardier's success or failure cannot be tied to BB Airport. I am sure Porter can be as successful at Pearson too.
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    TPA is not a city of Toronto agency, they report to Federal Government. And it is not an excuse to not paying taxes. TPA is a federal agency and operating a federal airport on Canadian soil. Once they record an income from their operations, it belongs to the Federal Government, thus all...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Actually it is quite opposite. Ironically noise is the issue to create "noise" and cloud all other real issues, as Norm Kelly said today "I don’t care. It could be planes propelled by rubber bands, as long as it’s quiet". I don't agree. I live in waterfront and even if planes can fly as...
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    Toronto Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport | ?m | ?s | Ports Toronto | Arup

    Normally I don't mind noise from the airport too much but today (Sunday, November 17th, 2013) I could't stop hearing planes keep roaming non-stop, either waiting for their turn to take off, testing their engines, landing or taking off. I checked the schedule of the BB Airport and found that...

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