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A 6264 · Sunday at 4:15 PM

Smiffy said:
I'm planning on getting some drone photos of lower don crossing bridge, cut and cover tunnel portal, and the rail corridor tomorrow. Wish me luck!

Drone on! (er, you know what I mean).

NoahB · Sunday at 6:37 PM

A 6264 said:
Plans for the Scarborough Subway extension and Scarborough Busway keep changing. I'm finding it hard to keep up! There is not much activity happening on the subway extension and busway threads, so I'll ask some questions here, because they affect OL too.

First question: "Wither Line 3?"
Originally, the Line 3 designation was to be retired. Then it was reassigned to the Ontario Line, and Wikipedia still says OL will be Line 3. (And so does the title of this UT thread!)
Then the TTC decided to call the busway Line 3 as well, since it was only supposed to be used until 2030, the original opening target date for the Scarborough Subway extension to Bloor / Danforth, and also for OL.
As I understand it, the target date of 2030 for the subway extension has been rescinded, and currently there is no target date for it.
Now it has been announced the busway will be permenant as a local route to run alongside Scarborough Subway after the latter opens.
Currently, the TTC's page for the busway still calls it line 3, and as far as I can tell, they do not have a page about OL.
Metrolinx does have a page for OL, but they do not mention a line number.
So... there there is no longer a plan to call OL Line 3, and no new number has been assigned?
Have I got anything wrong here?

Second question: "Wither Lawrence East Station?"
The original plan was to reuse the Lawrence East Station name as a new station on the Scarborough Subway extension. But now they are reopening the old station under its old name, according to TTC's website. I doubt both stations will have the same name, but since the TTC's site shows the old name on the busway map, to open in September, it suggests that name has been firmly decided, so the subway extension station will need to be assigned a new name. But nobody's saying anything about that. Any ideas?

I looked at the site that I think you are referring to.

"Scarborough Busway (Line 3 Bus Replacement)" is what they are calling the new BRT right-of-way. Note, it is not a single line. It will be multiple bus lines that will use the busway to speed up service.

A 6264 · Sunday at 7:52 PM

NoahB said:
I looked at the site that I think you are referring to.

"Scarborough Busway (Line 3 Bus Replacement)" is what they are calling the new BRT right-of-way. Note, it is not a single line. It will be multiple bus lines that will use the busway to speed up service.

Okay, so "Line 3 Bus Replacement" means a busway replacing Line 3, not a busway as replacement that is going to be called Line 3. That's probably the explanation, but it sure is ambiguous! In Wikipedia's article for line 3, the final paragraph calls it the Line 3 Busway, and perhaps the writer had the same misunderstanding that I did. Despite all that, I don't see any official references to OL as line 3, and I still wonder if a change in plan is in the works.

generalcanada · Sunday at 7:57 PM

A 6264 said:
Okay, so "Line 3 Bus Replacement" means a bus route replacing Line 3, not a bus replacement route that is going to be called Line 3. That's probably the explanation, but it sure is ambiguous! In Wikipedia's article for line 3, the final paragraph calls it the Line 3 Busway, and perhaps the writer had the same misunderstanding that I did. Despite all that, I don't see any official references to OL as line 3, and I still wonder if a change in plan is in the works.

Wayback Machine

It was official as of 2021, but not sure if thats still the official plan. this is all we have to go on.

nfitz · Sunday at 8:36 PM

generalcanada said:
It was official as of 2021, but not sure if thats still the official plan. this is all we have to go on.

I'm pretty sure we've seen official stuff a lot more recently than that Toronto 2021 document calling the Ontario Line, Line 3. Including Metrolinx documents!