Full Metal Junkie
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I honestly think Europeans really need to start discussing a security alliance that doesn't have an American general as Supreme Allied Commander. It would suck for us. But it makes sense for them.
According to Politico, those conversations are being had:
Trump’s Greenland threats push Europe toward divorcing America
With NATO thrown into question, some officials see the “coalition of the willing” as the basis for a new alliance without the U.S.
With NATO thrown into question, some officials see the “coalition of the willing” as the basis for a new alliance without the U.S.
European states, including those not in the EU like Britain and Norway, have spent much of Trump’s second term working in an increasingly effective group that already operates without America: the so-called coalition of the willing to support Ukraine. National security advisers from 35 governments are in regular contact, meeting frequently online and in person, as well as interacting via less formal text messaging. They are accustomed to seeking multilateral solutions in a world where Trump is a big part of the problem.
This format could potentially become the seedbed for a new security alliance in an era when the U.S. no longer supports NATO and European security.
Also in the text chats with the Washington Group leaders is Zelenskyy himself, which brings another intriguing idea into the mix. Ukraine is by far the most militarized country among those represented, with a huge army, a highly sophisticated drone production industry, and more expertise in the realities of fighting a war than anyone.
If Ukraine’s military might were to be included, when added to that of France, Germany, Poland and the U.K., among others, the potential armed power of the coalition of the willing would be vast, and would include both nuclear and non-nuclear states.
Not sure if this report is based in facts or wishful thinking. I'm having hard time imagining that the same politicians that showed such "firm resolve" when standing up to Russia would all of a sudden grow a spine and start standing up to both Russia and the US at the same time by making a EU-UK-Ukraine military alliance.




