JJTheJetPln
Active Member
I said the same thing. It looks like they just changed the front end and left everything else the same.
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GO Transit Fleet Equipment and other
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RU479
Active Member
With EXO planning to retire their 10 (at the moment 9 considering 1346 (ex GO 552) was involved in an accident and likely will be scrapped due to damage) ex GO F59PHs, how likely could it be that GO might try acquiring them next? (The 13 locomotive tender that this likely is involved with did have provisions to add 20 or more locomotives).
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
I think the chance is high, mainly to keep some running and gutting others for parts for our existing F59 fleet, and the ones being restored in North Bay.
RU479
Active Member
I would think it'd make more sense to have all the ex EXO ones running and using the ex Metrolink ones for parts, considering the rough shape most of the ex Metrolink ones are in
cplchanb
Senior Member
ML starting to become like Via by scraping up lives from ancient locomotives. what ever happened to their RFP for their 12 new builds.....
RU479
Active Member
I have a feeling that RFP related to the current rebuild of the ex Metrolink units, considering they have acquired 13 of them. Also I did not see anywhere that stated the locomotives had to be new builds.
smallspy
Senior Member
ONR may have 13 units, but they only have three prime movers to fit into them.
The purchase of the ex-EXO units would be a relatively quick and easy way for them to bulk up that number.
The options are getting the units from ONR into service relatively quickly - a year or so - or putting in an order for new-build units, which will take 3 years or more.
Which would you rather?
Dan
Bordercollie
Senior Member
I thought they bought new Cummins engines to put in them?
RU479
Active Member
I can see that, however, would it then not make sense to just use the 9 or so EXO units for revenue service? Rather than using their parts to fix other locomotives?
smallspy
Senior Member
I agree that it would. But it would also be dependent on ONR's budget for the project, and how much EXO was looking to receive for the sale of those locos.
Dan
CMQSD402F9011
New Member
First time posting here.
Recently I heard that Metra has around 11 F59PHIs in storage, those F59PHIs were bought as temporary units until they got permanent power which was the SD70MACHs and have gotten more of them passed the 15 70MACHs as originally ordered few years ago.
Perhaps GO/Metrolinx can look into those 11 F59PHIs from Metra and possibly buy the 2 other ex Metrolink F59PHIs with the SPTX reporting marks.
Recently I heard that Metra has around 11 F59PHIs in storage, those F59PHIs were bought as temporary units until they got permanent power which was the SD70MACHs and have gotten more of them passed the 15 70MACHs as originally ordered few years ago.
Perhaps GO/Metrolinx can look into those 11 F59PHIs from Metra and possibly buy the 2 other ex Metrolink F59PHIs with the SPTX reporting marks.
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Welcome and good intel!
crs1026
Superstar
And it would depend on the material condition of those units, and their potential reliability if pressed into service immediately without the investment of a life extending rebuild.
My vote says ML is on the right track by wanting to rebuild before putting anything out on the line.
Foamers can dream about seeing all those sidelined units in GO service, but riders will not appreciate their train breaking down or being cancelled because its tired old second hand unit just lay down and died.
- Paul
RU479
Active Member
My fear is that with the ex Metrolink units, they are in a pretty rough state. The majority of them do not have prime movers or HEP, and most of them were sitting in a deadline for around 4 years. The EXO units have run pretty consistently as far as I know and have their major components still intact.
I was just thinking that GO should have opted to rebuild the 9 EXO units as that would allow them to have more locomotives in service (according to Metrolinx, they seemingly only plan to have 5 out of the 13 ex Metrolink units rebuilt to an operational condition.)
smallspy
Senior Member
Timing may also be an issue here.
EXO does have those 9 units - but while they are planning on their replacement, are they done with them at this moment? They've only received two of the Siemens replacements thus far, and as far as I know has not yet announced a tender for their disposal.
In the interim, ONR can start on the rebuild of the units they have. Should they then also be able to add the EXO - or Metra - units to the batch, they can then integrate those into the lot.
Dan