Finch West Line 6 LRT

[GameOnBrad]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

 

[christiesplits]

Just to pick on this last point of public perception, on both of my trips today, you could hear many conversations around the train about how slow it felt. This is certainly going to be something picked up by the news media this week, if not become the main talking point.

Somewhat reassuring, via Chris Drew on X:

"Elected leaders I spoke with today agree with the need for more speed."

 

[ARG1]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

Honestly I wouldn't necessarily use that as a measure, especially in Toronto. The reality is that most people drive above speed limit in this city, so even in the most optimal conditions cars will be faster simply because trams/busses have to obey posted speed limit. This could be rectified by having a higher speed limit on transit, but I feel like Transportation Services might genuinely develop an aneurysm over such a thought.

 

[APTA-2048]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

It’s funny I read this being passed by cars on Allen Road on the Spadina line. Poor oversight and management is really killing the TTC. Also I’d like to point out, we used to fly by cars on the Queensway not even a decade ago. This is a problem absolutely of the TTC and City’s own making.

 

[Steve X]

The fastest section is between Rowntree Mills and Mount Olive Station reaching close to 60 km/h. All the other sections are max 40 and crawling.

 

[Adjei]

This line is the death kneel for LRT in this city. With such crap speeds the public will turn against LRT in this form and I don’t see any more being built. We might as well just build BRT and save billions.

 

[hw621]

This line is the death kneel for LRT in this city. With such crap speeds the public will turn against LRT in this form and I don’t see any more being built. We might as well just build BRT and save billions.

I am not sure about the part of "saving billions" lol

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

[Citation Needed]

The supervisors I spoke to said that they were only running slow because the operators haven’t had nearly enough time to acclimate to the trains and that they plan to reduce the runtime gradually over time. ATP was also in full working order and was slowing down trains to maintain safe spacing

 

[Admiral Beez]

That way I always check if an LRT, or even a bus, I'm on is going to slow is to look out the window at the cars. If the cars are passing the LRT/Bus, it's going too slow.

How can it be possible a LRT on a ROW to be slower than vehicular traffic? Just make the signals give priority to the LRT and it should fly past any cars.

 

[sunnyraytoronto]

How can it be possible a LRT on a ROW to be slower than vehicular traffic? Just make the signals give priority to the LRT and it should fly past any cars.

Shhh,… this is Toronto,… Mayor Olivia Chow will reduce vehicular speed limit on Finch Ave West down to 10km/hr,.. so LRT can be faster than vehicular traffic

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Overall impression after riding back and forth from Humber: this line is a massive failure. I don’t think I have ever been more disappointed in this city/province. It’s so, so bad on every level.

Furthermore I do not see a future among Chow, Bradford, or a Tory redux (lol) where surface running transit is given signal priority. Getting red paint on Bathurst cost enormous amounts of political capital.

Days like this I seriously consider moving to Vancouver or Montreal

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Yikes...

What is the chance of an extension to Yonge or Don Mills? Or the Airport?

 

[FW36]

So based in comments best case secanrio LRT travel time from one end to another is about 35- 45 minutes, and when busy about 50+ minutes. It honestly is disappointing. It's an easy fix potentially but I really don't think Toronto will respond. I hope for the good of transit users toronto gives the LRT priority or else I think the project will be seen as a white elephant.

 

[Steve X]

Given the wide and uneven headways, one can expect it’ll take an hour from Finch West to Humber College. Yeah they should just call it 536 and celebrate it like the Cherry extension.

 

[Ward8]

This line is the death kneel for LRT in this city. With such crap speeds the public will turn against LRT in this form and I don’t see any more being built. We might as well just build BRT and save billions.

I think Line 5 may take that prize. As for saving billions.... Our inability to affordably build transit extents to BRT as well.