I'm really liking this one so far.
Toronto Forma | 308m | 84s | Great Gulf | Gehry Partners
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hkskyline
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skycandy
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Pics from late afternoon yesterday…
DrillBit
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Will they clean these steel panels like windows ?
If yes, I cannot imagine how.
If no, these panels will lose their brightness pretty soon.
If yes, I cannot imagine how.
If no, these panels will lose their brightness pretty soon.
GameOnBrad
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I'm more curious about the sun reflecting off it.
UtakataNoAnnex
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They will...
Frank Gehry’s Rippling Metal and Modulated Glass Cladding Rising on Forma | UrbanToronto
Cladding has begun on Frank Gehry’s Forma East Tower in Toronto’s Entertainment District, giving the first look at its reflective curtain wall and sculpted metal panels. The 73-storey tower by Great Gulf, Dream Unlimited, and Westdale Properties is now revealing the bold facade that will define...
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...hope this helps!
Koops65
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As far as I know, stainless steel stays shiny... forever. Yes it gets dirty, but it won't lose its shininess.
The Preservationist
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How shiny the stainless steel remains depends on the grade and what it is exposed to. There are grades that will retain pristine surface composition for many decades. Depends on the content of chrome, nickel, molybdenum, etc.
nightstreak
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True story: Gehry’s Disney Concert Hall in LA was cooking people in a residential building a couple of blocks away. They had to buff out the mirror finish of the stainless steel panels.
jozl
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Looks like fender bender on a Cybertruck. I love the way this is turning out. I tend to think that highly reflective cladding is a bit of a cop out because it merely reflects other buildings and sky, blends in chameleon like. But Gehry’s treatment is stunning.
DtTO
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My biggest concern is the exposed fasteners. I was wishfully hoping we'd see the panels tack welded to the frame, but there's no way they could've done that at scale. Another solution would've been to have the panels manufactured with mounts that could be fastened from behind or something like that. The solution they've chosen is not elegant at all IMO. 8 Spruce does not have such a problem; it seems like most panels have no exposed fasteners or only along the edges; probably due to the less extreme contours in the steel. The Walt Disney Concert Hall in LA has no exposed fasteners from what I've seen.
Anyways, I hope I'm wrong, but I foresee the exposed fasteners causing serious problems with water ingress, streaks, rust spots if there is any steel framing underneath (hopefully it's all aluminum), etc.
8 Spruce for reference:
Anyways, I hope I'm wrong, but I foresee the exposed fasteners causing serious problems with water ingress, streaks, rust spots if there is any steel framing underneath (hopefully it's all aluminum), etc.
8 Spruce for reference:
DarwinP
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The decision may or may have been about money, but I think the design in each of forma’s panel is more complex/intricate it doesn’t have just a subtle/ smooth single-curve element. When you’re folding/bending the steel sheet some many times there’s a higher risk of the sheet detaching from the frame and maybe that’s why they needed the fasteners. I agree it would’ve been cleaner without them. But I think l from street level or far away, for a tower of this scale the average person will barely notice. Not everyone sees buildings the way we do here. The impact will be just as striking with or without the fasteners
ushahid
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Ooiii let us enjoy the cladding. we will think about the dirt few years from now. 
UtakataNoAnnex
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...besides, straining at the forest because of the trees seems a silly hill to climb. >.<
The Preservationist
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Manually welding thin sheet stainless is not as easy as other materials with clean up for a product of this calibre time consuming. Not sure about state of the art of automation these days, but I would say rivets would be a cost cutting measure. As for the rivets, as long as they are the same material as the sheet shouldn't be an issue for many decades if properly sized.