Toronto One Bloor East | 257.24m | 76s | Great Gulf | Hariri Pontarini

Considering some of the demographics in the condo and the surrounding area, I think a T&T or Galleria store would work really well here. I've passed by the small scale H-Mart and Galleria stores in the area and they are always busy.
Not a bad idea. I'm in the area, and last week I was unable to find karashi and kombu for dashi anywhere and had to order HonDashi and powdered mustard online from Haisue. Then the grocery store at Manulife somehow replaced the white miso it usually carries with doenjang - the packages are similar.
 
Interesting. They were looking at Panda's basement space as well.
I think Panda's basement makes a bit more sense - Yonge and Bloor is not an area I'd equate with the sort of "young people hanging out" demographic that the Ball Room goes for.
It appears that may be happening as well, which strikes me (ha - see what I did there?) as a very aggressive expansion.

This line is included in the RetailInsider article:
There are four basic concepts – Ballroom Bowl, Ballroom Social, Ballmart (which will move out into the suburbs) and the Ballroom Bowl Mechanical, going into Yonge and Dundas and other locations.
 
Absolutely love this, we need more of this in the city especially in the downtown core where entertainment options have been plummeting severely.

I think Panda's basement makes a bit more sense - Yonge and Bloor is not an area I'd equate with the sort of "young people hanging out" demographic that the Ball Room goes for.
This should be very successful here, there are more young people then you think around the area. I look at it from the other way around, I think they'll do a lot better here than they would at Panda's basement. I dont see heavy pedestrian traffic there (on Edward St) at any point during the day/night and it would be tougher to draw a crowd there.
 
It appears that may be happening as well, which strikes me (ha - see what I did there?) as a very aggressive expansion.

This line is included in the RetailInsider article:

Saw that too, thought of the same space (note, the former World's Biggest Bookstore, was also the former Olympia Bowling before that).,

But, I don't see any permits on the Panda site that would account for this. Which, of course, doesn't mean it's not happening, but it would seem not to be happening there just yet.
 
Has anyone heard any news about what could be filling in all the vacant retail space? I think the spaces are as follows: former Nordstrom Rack, former Tokyo Smoke, former Starbucks (interior space), and the massive two floors of retail on the east side of the building along Bloor.
 
Has anyone heard any news about what could be filling in all the vacant retail space? I think the spaces are as follows: former Nordstrom Rack, former Tokyo Smoke, former Starbucks (interior space), and the massive two floors of retail on the east side of the building along Bloor.
Other than The Ballroom going into the former McEwan's spot downstairs, I haven't heard a peep. There are spots on the East of the Bloor side that have been vacant the entire time the building's been up.
 
Other than The Ballroom going into the former McEwan's spot downstairs, I haven't heard a peep. There are spots on the East of the Bloor side that have been vacant the entire time the building's been up.
It's so bizzare that they'd keep those spots vacant instead of just lowering the rent. It doesn't even make financial sense to hold out for higher rent since the original leases would have expired by now. If they had leased it for even $1, that's $1 more than they would've made leaving it empty (yes I know that's a bit superfluous to say, but still......).
 
It's so bizzare that they'd keep those spots vacant instead of just lowering the rent. It doesn't even make financial sense to hold out for higher rent since the original leases would have expired by now. If they had leased it for even $1, that's $1 more than they would've made leaving it empty (yes I know that's a bit superfluous to say, but still......).
Welcome to the real estate greed-fest that is Toronto.
 
It's so bizzare that they'd keep those spots vacant instead of just lowering the rent. It doesn't even make financial sense to hold out for higher rent since the original leases would have expired by now. If they had leased it for even $1, that's $1 more than they would've made leaving it empty (yes I know that's a bit superfluous to say, but still......).
same situation with several new condo developments on Yonge - storefronts empty for years. the city needs to charge real estate companies an empty storefront tax similar to the vacant home tax.
 
It's so bizzare that they'd keep those spots vacant instead of just lowering the rent. It doesn't even make financial sense to hold out for higher rent since the original leases would have expired by now. If they had leased it for even $1, that's $1 more than they would've made leaving it empty (yes I know that's a bit superfluous to say, but still......).
Must be some kind of tax write-off. They wouldn't have kept it vacant for so long otherwise. Revenue Canada should close this loophole and the city should impose a punitive vacant commercial property tax.
 
It's so bizzare that they'd keep those spots vacant instead of just lowering the rent. It doesn't even make financial sense to hold out for higher rent since the original leases would have expired by now. If they had leased it for even $1, that's $1 more than they would've made leaving it empty (yes I know that's a bit superfluous to say, but still......).
My understanding is that if they lower the rent, the valuation of the property goes down, so they’d rather just maintain the value of their asset than rent it out.

Greedy? Yes. Bad for the city? Yes. But it does make sense.
 
Poor landlords of the Aura commercial spaces paid hundreds of thousands for completely worthless spaces, and now you want to punish them for it.
Aura is different - those units were sold as strata titles, not leased by the commercial landlord. Besides, the empty storefronts there are not visible from street level. I do think there should be a penalty if the storefronts are street-facing - they're unsightly and kill street life. No sympathy for 1 Bloor E landlord - after all, their units are located at a prime location (again, unlike Aura's basement), a lot of businesses would love to be at Yonge & Bloor if the rent/ lease makes commercial sense. While the loss of some tenants (Starbucks, Nordstrom) was beyond the landlord's control, there's no excuse for letting the Bloor St units remain vacant for the past 7 years or so (except for ex Tokyo Smoke). Like I said, those units would have been snapped up if the rent was reasonable.
 

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