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2023 Toronto Mayoral by-election

Who gets your vote for Mayor of Toronto?

  • Ana Bailao

    Votes: 18 16.4%

  • Brad Bradford

    Votes: 3 2.7%

  • Olivia Chow

    Votes: 58 52.7%

  • Mitzie Hunter

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Josh Matlow

    Votes: 20 18.2%

  • Mark Saunders

    Votes: 4 3.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • Total voters
    110
  • Poll closed .
Pacer said:
Tory seems to be trying to stay out of the campaign, but outside forces are trying to force his hand with polls, lobbying and a gold ole fashioned NDP scare.

Unfortunately he has ties to Bradford, Hunter and Bilao, who're all polling around the same numbers.

At least one of these candidates needs to drop out, as it's too crowded a segment of the vote.
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It's not unfortunate that John Tory is tied to candidates like Brad Bradford and Ana Bailao. He worked closely with both on council. All three are more middle of the road type of politicians. I could say that if Olivia Chow wins, it will be unfortunate that she will work closely with Josh Matlow, but she is more politically in step with him and the things he pushes for on council. Not shocking.

Tory is staying out of the race, yes, but he can still endorse someone, much like Hazel McCallion stayed out of the 2014 Mississauga mayor race but she did endorse Bonnie Crombie late in the race. That endorsement really helped Crombie lock down the mayor's chair for her as it was looking like Steve Mahoney was on his way to victory. I'm not saying a John Tory endorsement could be a huge game changer, no, but it can help any undecided residents who would rather have Tory back. If I had to make a guess, he would back Bailao. Also, I would bet that Bradford backs Bailao, if it comes to that. I see Mitzie Hunter not backing anyone.
 
StevieD said:
It's not unfortunate that John Tory is tied to candidates like Brad Bradford and Ana Bailao. He worked closely with both on council. All three are more middle of the road type of politicians. I could say that if Olivia Chow wins, it will be unfortunate that she will work closely with Josh Matlow, but she is more politically in step with him and the things he pushes for on council. Not shocking.

Tory is staying out of the race, yes, but he can still endorse someone, much like Hazel McCallion stayed out of the 2014 Mississauga mayor race but she did endorse Bonnie Crombie late in the race. That endorsement really helped Crombie lock down the mayor's chair for her as it was looking like Steve Mahoney was on his way to victory. I'm not saying a John Tory endorsement could be a huge game changer, no, but it can help any undecided residents who would rather have Tory back. If I had to make a guess, he would back Bailao. Also, I would bet that Bradford backs Bailao, if it comes to that. I see Mitzie Hunter not backing anyone.
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I was saying unfortunately in the context that it's not clear cut who he'd endorse, not necessarily his place on the political spectrum.

He's spent years curating relationships, and helping steer/mentor quite a few politicians. Endorsing 1 over the other 2 could massively affect there political futures in Toronto area politics for years to come.
 
Pacer said:
I was saying unfortunately in the context that it's not clear cut who he'd endorse, not necessarily his place on the political spectrum.

He's spent years curating relationships, and helping steer/mentor quite a few politicians. Endorsing 1 over the other 2 could massively affect there political futures in Toronto area politics for years to come.
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Ah. My apologizes for misunderstanding.
 
Helpful poll tracker at the Toronto Star that will be updated regularly.

www.thestar.com

Toronto mayoral poll tracker: Toronto chooses new mayor today and final opinion polls are in

We are updating our poll tracker graphic several times a week in the lead up to the June 26 mayoral election.
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Little faith in municipal polls, last time she ran she was solidly ahead as well from Feb - July.
By September when Doug entered and Rob withdrew she was dead in the water.

What happened in July that sunk her campaign and rocketed Tory to the top?
 
StevieD said:
Basically, she is a poor campaigner who thought she would win because her name is Olivia Chow.
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Or, it strikes me that she was, in 2014, a *reluctant* campaigner whom *her supporters* thought she would win because her name was Olivia Chow. Remember: she was hobbled by such things as that facial paralysis she had going for a while there.

Plus, she was snagged by the crosscurrents btw/ Anyone But Ford and Stop The Socialist Hordes. And if major media outlets et al can find a good reason to deflect away from said Socialist Hordes, they'll pursue it.
 
With all these shitty candidates I can't believe I'm actually yearning for a return of John Tory :oops:
 
Personally I think we will see a left winger win this election.

Toronto has had right wing mayors since Rob Ford took office in 2010. I can see people wanting a change after 13 years.

It may actually open up Toronto to new ideas and be the breath of fresh air that City Hall so desperately needs.
 
Richard White said:
Personally I think we will see a left winger win this election.

Toronto has had right wing mayors since Rob Ford took office in 2010. I can see people wanting a change after 13 years.

It may actually open up Toronto to new ideas and be the breath of fresh air that City Hall so desperately needs.
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You are implying there wasn't a change from Ford to Tory. My view is that I think most Torontonians consider Tory to be a centrist, so they did perceive a shift from right to centre between Ford and Tory.
 
toaster29 said:
You are implying there wasn't a change from Ford to Tory. My view is that I think most Torontonians consider Tory to be a centrist, so they did perceive a shift from right to centre between Ford and Tory.
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True but Tory was the PC leader prior to being Mayor.

Things change but political views don't. Once a Conservative, always a Conservative
 
Richard White said:
True but Tory was the PC leader prior to being Mayor.

Things change but political views don't. Once a Conservative, always a Conservative
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Err, not always true.
I've gone from being strong conservative to now completely socially liberal, but fiscally still conservative.

What this country needs is a Libertarian party that can compete with our big 3 parties
 
toaster29 said:
You are implying there wasn't a change from Ford to Tory. My view is that I think most Torontonians consider Tory to be a centrist, so they did perceive a shift from right to centre between Ford and Tory.
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While there certainly was a rhetorical change; and a presentation change; I'm not sure there was that much of a substantive change.

A series of tax increases that were at or below inflation, nominally, but did not account for population growth at all; thus representing a net funding cut vs the Rob Ford year when seen in per capita terms; combined with continued erosion of City
Services, makes it very difficult to label his administration as anything other than small-c conservative. Indeed, I might go further and suggest that in light of the pressing need for new funds to address homelessness and already strained public services, his administration bordered on 'reactionary' in many respects; the notable exception being the amorphous, non-committal, dithering language of a politician rarely inclined to achieve anything useful one way or the other.

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As a side note, I've had dicussions w/the former Mayor, though not in many years, going back to when he was leader of the opposition at Queen's Park. He was remarkably accessible, a nice enough guy and capable of carrying on an articulate chat; but you know at the end of our discussion, I came away with 'he just committed to consider possibly doing something, maybe, kinda/sorta, in the fullness of time'. He never changed.
 
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