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[Allandale25]

Eglinton Crosstown LRT inches closer to finish with light-rail vehicle testing in Toronto’s east end | Globalnews.ca

Crosslinx, the consortium building the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, is ramping up vehicle testing east of Laird station. Officials are warning residents to be careful near the tracks.

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[EnviroTO]

If you're talking about crossing gates then yes of course, but this isn't what Ottawa would've gotten - which is the context of this discussion. We're talking about grade separation vs on street tram style which even with the mightiest TSP you're still adding significant joints of slowdown and unreliability.

Again that is entirely based on how it is implemented. The long stretches of few crossings and intersections and grass is much like the Barcelona Tram. Where is the significant slow down on the Barcelona Tram other than the stops? In the case of the intersection where you can't give the proper signal priority you dive under that intersection. It can work if the priority is on making it work.

 

[kotsy]

The grass looks terrific. I'd love to see that brought down to the Harbourfront & Spadina streetcars

 

[Johnny Au]

Part 5 of 7 taken at Cedarvale station on August 18, 2021

South Side

Up next:

Part 6: East Side 1 of 2

 

[CharmAlarm]

Eglinton Crosstown LRT inches closer to finish with light-rail vehicle testing in Toronto’s east end | Globalnews.ca

Crosslinx, the consortium building the Eglinton Crosstown LRT, is ramping up vehicle testing east of Laird station. Officials are warning residents to be careful near the tracks.

globalnews.ca

Interesting..at 40 second mark, Anne Marie says " we're about a year and a half away from full service". Hmmm....that could bring us into 2023...*cough*

 

[Reecemartin]

Had a great time riding on the surface section of the line yesterday! Enjoy this video.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Had a great time riding on the surface section of the line yesterday! Enjoy this video.

Notice the transit signals have English verbage signage to add to the clutter. Excellent for the non-English speaking residents and visitors.

Since they look the same as the regular traffic signals, expect to see motorists move with those transit signals because they can't read English.

 

[Towered]

They're still insisting the line will open in 2022?

I ain't in the market for snake oil.

 

[allengeorge]

They're still insisting the line will open in 2022?

I ain't in the market for snake oil.

My take is that no one really knows when the line will be done, but saying “We don’t know” will get them raked over the coals in public. So, it’s better for everyone involved to claim a date now and take the heat when it inevitably slips later. Taking the heat later is fine because in a year we’ll probably have line of sight to a realistic completion date.

The only other option would be to really overstate the date and come in early, but that has political risks too.

 

[allengeorge]

In many ways, in terms of timeline and cost, it may be best for us as the public to accept the fact that we can’t predict big projects with absolute certainty, so the best we can do is design as much up front, share risk between the public and the contractor, try to release in stages, and accept some amount of cost overruns and timeline creep.

IMO.

 

[crs1026]

In many ways, in terms of timeline and cost, it may be best for us as the public to accept the fact that we can’t predict big projects with absolute certainty, so the best we can do is design as much up front, share risk between the public and the contractor, try to release in stages, and accept some amount of cost overruns and timeline creep.

IMO.

Amen. There’s a lot of literarure out there documenting that only 20-30% of “megaprojects” come in on time and budget. Some are mismanaged or technical failures, but more often stuff happens and the project takes the hit.
ML has stood on its head creating and revising procurement models that firewall absolutely everyone in authority from any blame for cost or timeline deficiencies. It would be brilliant if it wasn’t so artificial and utterly counterproductive.
As to Crosstown specifically, The only thing that seems to have gone wrong was the slow.start and discovery glitches on the underpinned stations…. And maybe the whole strategy of deep bored tunnelling may not have been the optimal choice. There may be things to blame and hold people accountable for, but at this point it’s water over the dam in terms of project completion.
Sadly, the adversarial structure of the contract will prevent any serious attempt at lessons learned.

- Paul

 

[TheTigerMaster]

The grass looks terrific. I'd love to see that brought down to the Harbourfront & Spadina streetcars

It massively improves the public realm. I'm quite surprised at how much of an impact it has had.

I agree, it needs to be expanded to other ROWs.

 

[ARG1]

Again that is entirely based on how it is implemented. The long stretches of few crossings and intersections and grass is much like the Barcelona Tram. Where is the significant slow down on the Barcelona Tram other than the stops? In the case of the intersection where you can't give the proper signal priority you dive under that intersection. It can work if the priority is on making it work.

This is no Barselona tram, this is downtown Ottawa

 

[EnviroTO]

This is no Barselona tram, this is downtown Ottawa

The Crosstown LRT is in downtown Ottawa? I think you need to re-examine the thread title and all the photos being posted in this thread. This is Scarborough and it is more suburban.

 

[ARG1]

The Crosstown LRT is in downtown Ottawa? I think you need to re-examine the thread title and all the photos being posted in this thread. This is Scarborough and it is more suburban.

Look at the message I initially replied to. The context of this conversation was the initial LRT plan in Ottawa.