Hamilton 90 Skinner Road | ?m | 3s | New Horizon | Graziani + Corazza

[Paclo]

90 Skinner Road, AKA "Waterdown Bay Block 646": a proposed 3 & 3-storey stacked townhouse development designed by Graziani + Corazza Architects for New Horizon Development Group on the southeast corner of Skinner Road and Burke Street in Hamilton's Waterdown community.

Rendering from NHDG:

Additional visuals from the Minor Variance application of December 2022:

 

[Branden Simon]

This is marked as SoL Stacked towns

SoL website

 

[BrenWilson]

My god that roundabout is massive for a local street.

 

[innsertnamehere]

It's on a 4-lane arterial. It's not a local street.

 

[BrenWilson]

Calling it an arterial is maybe a stretch, seems like a grossly oversized collector considering the size of the subdivision there.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Eventually it’s supposed to connect to Waterdown road and provide a bypass of downtown Waterdown, so it’ll serve more traffic than just that in the subdivision itself.

4 lanes is probably overkill for it though, but it’s really not a local street.

 

[BrenWilson]

Some very odd choices here considering it doesn't connect to the waterdown bypass without going back to Hwy5/Dundas.

Spoiler: Map

 

[innsertnamehere]

it makes more sense when you realize most traffic is not going from north of Waterdown to south of Waterdown - if a car is doing that, it generally takes Highway 6.

The bypass is to get cars coming from the new subdivisions on the east side of Waterdown to Waterdown Road. Right now they go through the Downtown, which will change with this connection. Similarly the north bypass is for vehicles going from highway 6 to Dundas St.

 

[BrenWilson]

Yes, which goes back to my earlier point that 4 lanes for such a collector (connecter) is over designed. It's probably an older design that predates the complete streets guide for the city but the city really needs to crack down on site plans and road designs that don't comply with their own guidelines.

 

[ben.thebean1]

1A) Just a little update on the Waterdown Road situation. In my little map, green is what was already 4 lanes and blue is what is currently being either widened or twinned. Looks like everything should be done by next spring. A new stoplight is now operating at the intersection of Waterdown Road/Mill Street and Mountain Brow Road, but rumour has it this is intended to eventually be a bypass-style curved T intersection or a roundabout and the stoplight is just a semi-temporary fix to save time, and also because of current property constraints.

1B) Anyone who questions this or says it's being "overbuilt" has clearly never tried to drive on Waterdown Road at rush hour, and is also forgetting that most of the farm fields in the area have proposals for subdivisions. It's not just to improve traffic flow, it's to encourage people to take that route instead of Dundas.

2) A friend of mine who lives near the Dundas and Avonsyde (bypass) intersection said she got a card about future construction at that intersection, but I can't find any information to back that up. I wonder if they're also planning to make that either a roundabout or even a curved T as well to coincide with the eventual widening of Parkside (the rest of the bypass) to try to push people north instead of squishing down to one lane to squeeze through the old town and all the stoplights.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Waterdown isn't getting widened to 4 lanes, but rather 2+centre turn and bike lanes with the road width wide enough to repaint it to 4-lanes eventually, from my understanding.

The big construction project in Waterdown over the next few years will be the 5/6 interchange though.