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OneCity Plan
- Thread starter AlvinofDiaspar
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andrewpmk
Senior Member
Read the last paragraph.
This is obviously a late April Fool's joke.
This is obviously a late April Fool's joke.
• Bloor-Danforth subway extension from Kennedy to the Scarborough Town Centre and up to Sheppard, replacing the Scarborough SRT. (Current plans, approved this year, call for an LRT.) Cost $2.3 billion, or $484 million more.
Yes.
• Sheppard subway run west to Downsview, linking the Yonge and Spadina lines. $1.54 billion.
Yes.
• Build the downtown relief line, now called a Don Mills express line, from Eglinton to Queen. $5.4 billion.
Yes. But should be top priority, and should also go under Wellington, not Queen (minor detail though at this point).
• Turn the Airport to Downtown line into a regular subway service, with more stops, and electrified. $1.5 billion.
Yes and no. I agree with the concept, but it should be done under GO, not the TTC.
• Build a Scarborough Express line along the Stouffville GO line, a project Markham has been pushing. GO Train or surface-level trains or light rail. $6.9 billion.
Again, yes, but under GO.
Yes.
• Sheppard subway run west to Downsview, linking the Yonge and Spadina lines. $1.54 billion.
Yes.
• Build the downtown relief line, now called a Don Mills express line, from Eglinton to Queen. $5.4 billion.
Yes. But should be top priority, and should also go under Wellington, not Queen (minor detail though at this point).
• Turn the Airport to Downtown line into a regular subway service, with more stops, and electrified. $1.5 billion.
Yes and no. I agree with the concept, but it should be done under GO, not the TTC.
• Build a Scarborough Express line along the Stouffville GO line, a project Markham has been pushing. GO Train or surface-level trains or light rail. $6.9 billion.
Again, yes, but under GO.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
agreed on the drl being the first priority. the difference is that it should run up to eglinton, with the DRL running north of there. better yet, have the $7 billion Scarborough express line connect to it.
edit: it will run to eglinton.. thank god.
edit: it will run to eglinton.. thank god.
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borgo100
Active Member
datamouse
Active Member
And still no Sheppard Subway eastwards. DeBaeremaeker is a sleeze. He talks about supporting it when there's money but his actions continue to prove otherwise.
"De Baeremaeker says he’s confident the six Scarborough-area MPPs would support the idea." - Right, because you cared about how they all opposed the LRT.
"De Baeremaeker says he’s confident the six Scarborough-area MPPs would support the idea." - Right, because you cared about how they all opposed the LRT.
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That's because the SELRT will be there by the time that this plan comes around.
Filip
Senior Member
That timeline has to be drastically shortened in order to deliver the relief Toronto will need in the coming years.
Good idea on most routes - but expecting the province and feds to chip in $10 billion each? LOL!
Good idea on most routes - but expecting the province and feds to chip in $10 billion each? LOL!
Hopefully they can fast-track the B-D extension, especially seeing as how the majority of the funding is already there.
They may also be able to fast-track the Sheppard West extension, because it's already been studied.
datamouse
Active Member
Metrolinx's timeline has the SRT conversion from 2014-2019 so we're talking about almost the exact same timeline if we look a these two projects.
Ridership projects along Sheppard were never great but they weren't exactly terrible either. If your going to extend it westward and have something along the Stouffville line it only continues to show that the Subway should at least be extended to the GO line.
Ridership projects along Sheppard were never great but they weren't exactly terrible either. If your going to extend it westward and have something along the Stouffville line it only continues to show that the Subway should at least be extended to the GO line.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
datamouse:
Considering the extension of BD to STC, the rationale for having a subway along that stretch of Sheppard is kind of moot.
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Considering the extension of BD to STC, the rationale for having a subway along that stretch of Sheppard is kind of moot.
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Filip
Senior Member
I am also a bit concerned over the wording of the Don Mills line.. Are we talking about a N-S line that ends at Queen or is it going to go downtown? Any new subway route through downtown has to travel across it and into the west end (Roncesvalles or so) to deliver relief to the often crowded and unreliable streetcar lines.
Those express lines will likely have to have some sort of tunnelled downtown equivalent as Union cannot handle their ridership.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
A N-S line that ends at Queen will have to go downtown to make any kind of relief possible - otherwise, it's all just going to what, unload onto the Queen car, which is saturated. The alignment sounds straight out of the maps we've seen. I suppose there isn't much point in speculating on the basis of a news article when an official report can't be far away now (like the TTC Commission meeting tomorrow? The Supplementary Agenda/Reports is strangely not up yet, I wonder why)
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AlvinofDiaspar
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Jaye101
Active Member
This is the only part of the plan that worries me.