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King of the unsightly (Lamb on ugly condos)

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King of the unsightly
Cluttered look plagues building

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tim kocur/for metro toronto

Brad J. Lamb, president of Brad J. Lamb Condominiums, considers the 1000 King Street West condo building one of the ugliest in the city.


If you thought you were alone in cringing at Toronto�s recent condominium developments, you were wrong.

Some in the industry are right there along with you, including Brad J. Lamb, the president of Brad J. Lamb Condominiums.

�Developers need to decide,� he says. �Do we improve the city or just make money? The buildings are here forever. There can be a group of beautiful buildings and one ugly condominium can completely ruin it.�

He singles out one building as the worst in the city � 1000 King Street West, developed a few years ago by Plazacorp. From that example, we can see the problems with many recent developments.

The building has a cluttered appearance as it uses numerous materials in combination. No more than three are needed for a �light, simple and clean� look, according to Lamb. The building also has small and useless balconies, poor retail with bad visibility at street level, and small �punch-out� windows that are no longer necessary in an era when technology allows for the maximization of glass walls.

�The main problem is a lack of knowledge about architecture, money grubbing, and a lack of regulation to stop it,� Lamb says.

An average condominium development of $50 million will spend about $400,000 to $800,000 on architecture, Lamb says. If a developer goes cheap, they stand to increase their profits significantly, at the expense of architectural integrity.

The situation is getting better though. Charles Gane is a partner with CORE Architects and he sees a rise in the demand for better architecture.

�The new downtown hipper developers are doing good work,� he says. �The older guys are dinosaurs who keep building the same thing. They�ll have to change or adapt to the new style or they�ll die because the demands of the public are improving.�

Toronto real estate agent Todd Black of Sutton Group Associates says he doesn�t get a lot of complaints about condos being ugly; however, he does hear complaints about �cookie-cutter designs� and a lack of individualism with new projects.

�When a unique condo design comes on the market, it does sell really quickly,� Black says. �It�s quite true that they�re getting better. We�re seeing better detail and they�re more appealing.�

If Lamb, Gane and Black are all correct in their optimism about better design, T.O. citizens looking to the sky will hopefully do a lot less cringing in the future.



Here are the six ugliest condominiums in Toronto, according to Brad J. Lamb, president of Brad J. Lamb Condominiums.

1. 1000 King St. W
2. 18 Stafford St.
3. 109 Front St. E. �New Times Square.�
4. 500 Richmond St. W. �Cityscape Terrace�
5. 550 Front St. W.
6. 330 Adelaide St. E.
 
What no French Quarter?

All the rest are certainly ugly.
 
Is it really fair for the "Lamb that sells condos" to be critiquing condo architecture? Does he have a hidden agenda for calling some condos ugly?

Maybe we here at Urban Toronto should start a list of condos that are so ugly that people shouldn't be buying them. Then we head over to their sales offices and form picket lines!
 
Next Brad Lamb media appearance in 5... 4... 3... 2...
 
1000 King is not so bad. The maintenance fees are very low - under $300 for an 800 square foot apartment! I realize I'm reviving an incredibly old thread - but I just took a look today and wanted to see if there were any thoughts on the building. It's tempting, as the low fee makes it more affordable
 
1000 King is not so bad. The maintenance fees are very low - under $300 for an 800 square foot apartment! I realize I'm reviving an incredibly old thread - but I just took a look today and wanted to see if there were any thoughts on the building. It's tempting, as the low fee makes it more affordable

1000 King is indeed so bad. It belongs..., well it belongs nowhere, but if it must exist then it belongs next to a shopping mall in Mississauga.
 
Is it really fair for the "Lamb that sells condos" to be critiquing condo architecture? Does he have a hidden agenda for calling some condos ugly?

Maybe we here at Urban Toronto should start a list of condos that are so ugly that people shouldn't be buying them. Then we head over to their sales offices and form picket lines!

Damn right it's fair. The buildings he's criticizing are crap and deserve harsh criticism. Lamb has been advocating for good design and criticizing bad design for years. But he's also been a patron of good architectural firms and has been building some of the best buildings this city has seen since the 50's.
 
Ooop - just noticed this thread is several years old. Point still stands though.

I'm a first time home buyer. What makes 1000 King so terrible? It's not upscale like many of the other places...but the maintenance fees are so low that I was thinking that the trade-off may be worthwhile!
 
The location is good and the units themselves seem to look fine (based on a quick mls search), but architecturally the building is a bit tragic. It detracts from the quality of the street. Make sure the price you pay reflects this fact because, especially when the market cools, units in a building like this will always be a hard sell and should be priced well below the better buildings in the area. If Lamb's Parc Lofts is selling for $600psf around the corner then 1000 King should be selling for under $500psf.
 
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