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Canada looking like Switzerland, economist says
'Some of the soundest fundamentals in the world'

Jacqueline Thorpe, Financial Post
Published: Friday, March 03, 2006

Forget suffering from "Dutch disease." Canada is thriving with "Swiss syndrome," an economist said yesterday.

Many analysts have warned Canada may be falling into the same trap that befell the Netherlands in the late 1950s when the discovery of North Sea gas sent the Dutch currency soaring and the manufacturing sector tumbling soon after.

But Douglas Porter, deputy chief economist at BMO Nesbitt Burns, said Canada's economic fundamentals may be more in line with those of Switzerland, which is typically viewed as the gold-standard economic model with a massive current account surplus, a super-strong currency, rock-bottom unemployment, miniscule inflation and consistently low interest rates.

"Switzerland may have beaten Canada at its own game in the recent Olympic hockey tourney, but we are catching them at their game -- now boasting some of the soundest economic fundamentals in the world," Mr. Porter wrote in a report.

Canada can also point to some positives that Switzerland can't, including solid gross domestic product and a government budget surplus.

Raging commodity prices may have been a major factor driving the loonie to new peaks -- it reached a 14-year high of US88.50 cents yesterday as oil rebounded -- but Canada's dramatically improved fiscal and credit position should not be overlooked, Mr. Porter said.

Canada's overall government sector was in surplus to the tune of 1.7% of GDP, according to recent 2005 figures, the second-best annual performance on record dating back to the 1960s, trailing only the boom year of 2000.

While the government is set to loosen the purse strings this year, Canada should remain in surplus while Switzerland's deficit is expected to stay above 1% of GDP. "Perhaps Canada should aim for a standard possibly even higher than Switzerland, such as Norway, where the budget surplus is expected to clock in at a staggering 17% of GDP," Mr. Porter quips. "They're effectively like Alberta without the rest of the country."

Sliding government debt has combined with persistently low interest rates to chop Canada's foreign net liabilities to 12% of gross domestic product from more than 44% in 1994 and brought net interest and dividend payments on that debt to their lowest share of GDP in at least 40 years.

"The melting shortfall on net interest and dividend payments suggests that a virtuous circle is taking hold on the current account and thus the currency may in fact be poised for additional strength in the years ahead," Mr. Porter said.

In addition to reaching new highs against the U.S. dollar, the loonie also broke below $2 per British pound this week for the first time in more than a decade.

Mr. Porter said it is likely only a matter of time before Canada's foreign net liabilities shrink to zero and Canada joins Switzerland, Japan, Germany and Norway as net creditor nations. Perhaps then, the loonie could join the Swiss franc in having "safe-haven" status, acting as a port of call in times of global distress, especially with Canada one of the few geopolitically stable countries exporting oil.

Canada's manufacturing sector will likely continue suffering some element of Dutch disease, Mr. Porter said.

"Beyond bragging rights and a triple-A credit rating, the real economic payoff from very healthy economic fundamentals is found in rising living standards flowing from a deservedly strong currency and low long-term borrowing costs," he added.
 
Can we have a Rail 2000 project like Switzerland too?

Rail 2000
Swissinfo Article

$26 billion in rail transport projects over 20 years (First phase came in at $1.3 billion under budget). 844 new or refurbished trainsets and half-hourly or better service between all cities.
 
Good news, however Canada is in unchartered waters, as we have a new government which well sucks, and could lead us into financial ruin.

If the liberals where still in, I could say we could be happy. But right now is a sit and wait period, because Canada could fall fast, just like the USA. We are not safe till the Liberals are back. Then we can brag about our economic future.
 
Can we have a Rail 2000 project like Switzerland too?

That's why I love articles like this; they are always interesting for what they DON'T compare.
 
miketoronto I guess the 80 sum billion in spending the Martin announced in his two years doesnt strike you at all as fiscally, oh I dont know, imprudent? (that was 40 B to "fix health care for a generation" and 40 B for tax cuts). I am going to go out on a limb here and guess you typically vote liberal - but maybe we could just wait a bit and see what Harper does before we crucify him...
 
mpolo:

Except that Harper is doing pretty much exactly the same thing...from the Globe:

The Tories court red ink

It is the small print, the cryptic notations amid detailed charts, that may be the federal Conservatives' undoing. Two months ago, emboldened by the prospect of victory, the party put out a blithe fiscal plan that itemized its intended spending, its tax cuts and its sunny predictions for a continuing surplus. Buried amid those five-year tallies and self-aggrandizing comparisons with the Liberals was the rather astounding assertion that they could save $22.5-billion over five years by "moderating spending on grants and contributions and government departments and agencies." At the time, as figures from all parties flew like feathers, scarcely anyone paid attention.

Now the Conservatives are in the soup. As TD Bank Financial Group warned this week, that colossal pledge of $22.5-billion in savings represents fully 5 per cent of direct program spending over five years. Worse, there are complications. The Tories also promised to hike the budgets of defence, international assistance, Indian and northern affairs, agriculture and the RCMP, so 25 per cent of spending is effectively off limits. To scrounge such savings from the remaining spending, fully 6.7 per cent must be cut over five years. "Savings of the magnitude identified in the Conservative plan will not be easy to secure," observed TD chief economist Don Drummond. That is an understatement.

The easy cuts, and many of the hard cuts, have already been made. In 1995, to eliminate the deficit, the Liberals outlined schemes to slash direct program spending by 10.9 per cent over three years. Much of the savings came from so-called transformational cuts such as the elimination of transport subsidies. The Liberals simply wiped out large areas of federal activity. Even then, the trumpeted savings were lower than advertised; Ottawa had to pay major restructuring costs to get out of its obligations. And in reality, some cuts never actually occurred. Just last year, the Liberals took another whack at spending, hacking out $10.9-billion in savings over five years.

It's going to be tough to find another $22.5-billion. And the Conservatives do not have the luxury of missing their targets. As TD calculated in mid-February, the Tories will likely emerge from 2006-07 with a paltry surplus of $1.9-billion followed by surpluses of roughly $5-billion a year for the next few years. They don't have a lot of room for mistakes or mishaps. The bank's estimates do not cover the cost of such wildly ambitious promises as the vow to fix the fiscal imbalance. Nor do they include such previously unanticipated costs as transitional funding to the provinces for the cancellation of child-care transfers. Perhaps worst of all, the Conservatives have apparently underestimated the price tag for cutting the sales tax and deferring the capital gains tax. They are perched on a very keen knife's edge.

The danger is clear. U.S. President George W. Bush was elected as a fiscal conservative. This year, largely because of his defence bills and tax cuts, the United States faces a record deficit of $477-billion (U.S.). Although the Tories are of course not even close to digging that sort of hole, and insist that they will never, never run a deficit, their fiscal future appears decidedly risky. The moral? Don't promise the world if you can't pay for it.

AoD
 
"Canada's manufacturing sector will likely continue suffering some element of Dutch disease, Mr. Porter said"

This however is no small issue. The revenue from Canadian Oil sales topped 100 billion last year (for only the second year in history). Manufacturing and factory output was in the range of 600 billion by comparison. We all benefit from the oil industry, but as you can see it is a comparatively small sector of our economy.
 
Not to mention that there is more jobs in manufacturing for each dollar of revenue. Manufacturing represents a whole bunch of companies making a whole bunch of different things. Oil represents just getting the oil and transporting it... the number of companies involved directly in oil production and the number of directly employed people are significantly less than manufacturing.
 
I know almost everybody here is hardcore anti-Conservative but let's give them a chance before we start speculating.
 
Good news, however Canada is in unchartered waters, as we have a new government which well sucks, and could lead us into financial ruin.

:rollin
 
Why is the Financial Post always complaining then? They wrote this, everything seems fine. They should stop complaining.
 
Since Ontario makes up 40% of the country's population, it has to remain strong.

I wonder what the Department of Ontario Economic Development is strategizing in order to build the province's core strengths.
 
to be fair Alvino, Harper has not yet done the same - its just his platform indicates he would...mind you if Dalton has taught us anything what a politician says would be great to do and what gets done are not quite the same. That said, I have just as much fear as anyone esle around here that we could get George W's economic plan. But, given the Canadian electorate's strong preference against deficits and his minority position - I dont see the Conservatives spending money they dont have. Mind you, we'll just have to watch him carefully.
 
mind you if Dalton has taught us anything what a politician says would be great to do and what gets done are not quite the same.
You weren't paying very close attention if Dalton is the first politician you noticed who strayed from their campaign literature.

Voters almost never elect parties with a sensible well thought out, workable platform. We elect parties that promise to do something for everyone (cut taxes, increase spending, and decrease debt load) then we complain when they throw one of those 3 out after being elected.
 

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