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It isn't. I went there to pick up a delivery last week.

TBH and to a casual observer, it doesn't come across as *that* horrid, Urbancorp collapse or no--I've seen many a school-site or brownfields-infill street schlockier than this. (Unless the self-conscious neo-modern avoidance of spec-build schlock is part of the problem.)

If anything, it's about its having more of a "integral and fluid extension of the Ontario Place concept" element to it--and as I suggested re the water features as some kind of "beginning of the end" moment, the *original* Children's Village had a reassuring come-as-you-are, leave-as-you-are...

And on that Joe Blow historically-boneheaded mediocre-amateur architectural judgment note, I think you've blown yourself out of the argument--particularly relative to the forces rallying on behalf of *both* Ontario Place *and* the Ontario Science Centre. Oh, and BTW, even if the setting's...

And to elaborate on the culturally-bereft POV: let's remember that Ford's a jock. He views things through the prism of sporting and entertainment venues as "infrastructure". It's a realm where stadiums serve for 30 years before being imploded, once something "newer" and "fresher" takes its...

And I think that's often the case, particularly these days: a sort of "accidental cultural throttling", often under the well-meaning notion that it's actually *beneficial* to the kids. But again, it's also in how totally-immersive, safe-play-zone entropic and inert--even beyond Science...

Though as per my point, maybe it's not just about super-specifically *kid*-oriented attractions. Like, when you speak of re going to Wonderland at 5 or 6, I could just as well speak of re going to *Yorkdale* at 5 or 6--and there was a symbiotic getting-there and once-there pleasure to *that*...

It definitely is; but 50 years ago it operated on more of an IDA-style "franchise" level (until recently, the drug store on the E side of Roncy N of Queen bore a 50-years-old-or-so Rexall sign). Then it basically became a zombie brand until being domestically rebooted in the 90s and ultimately...

It's not just a matter of "appreciating architecture"; it's a matter of appreciating a sense of place and the richness of the world. And beyond the fact that the urban scale around Norton Place Park is different from that around High Park, the thing is--for me, it wasn't just about walking west...

If by "destroyed", one means Alf Landon-style, or Barry Goldwater-style, or even Bob Dole-style--that's all but nil. But that's not a synonym for "defeated".

If you're arguing that the only alibi on behalf of the OP Forum was "nostalgia" and its replacement is "better", then you just don't get it.

Actually, "family friendly waterpark" wouldn't really be that much better, under the circumstances, particularly given the preexisting facilities we're dealing with. Remember what I've said before about Great Wolf Lodge as some kind of Thing That Ate Niagara Falls. Or, for that matter, what...

Another thing to remember: not everyone drinks, or at least internalizes "liquid pleasure" as a must-have. And they might still view the issue through the prism of having witnessed bums with liquor bottles on the subway, etc.

True, but it's more like poetic justice. DoFo must be saying: "Eureka! Now we can call it the *Ontario* Congress Centre!"

Well, semi-seriously, I can picture DoFo offering to retrofit the Toronto Congress Centre for legislative purposes. Yeah, Dixon & 27 is the boondocks, but...

Would the "before" be around 1988/89 or so? That looks like one of those hipster-baiting Black Label wall ads...

As an old-fashioned casual urban architectural tourist of the pre-Y2K free-range sort, here's a bit of "new reality" that saddened me when I passed by the ground floor lobby a week or two ago: how it'd appear that the upper floors are inaccessible to all but passholders. That is, the "full...

From the curvilinearity to the perforated brick balcony blocks, it owes a fair bit to this https://hiddenarchitecture.net/pedregulho-housing-developmen/

Truth be told, back in the first term of Megacity Council a quarter century ago, his father would likewise have been all by his lonesome (Robert Bruce Ford wasn't elected yet)

Keep in mind that when we're dealing w/circa 1930 as opposed to circa 1960/70/80, there's an element of "excusability" to such loss. (Maybe what's more disheartening is how we've lost so much of what these "beautiful structures" were lost on behalf of, robbing Toronto of a more cohesive "Deco...