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If the government had any interest in finding an off-ramp that would allow them to ditch their Science Centre plan with any dignity, pretending they're doing it to honour Moriyama's memory would be a good one. It'll just make the whole thing more shameful when they abandon that building. In the...

There was clearly some heavy sarcasm but no actual personal attacks, unless un-seriously accusing someone of secretly being a Cabinet Minister is ad homiinem but you have to give me that, as far as responses go, it was definitely.... ... ... better than nothing.

Fair enough and I can agree to disagree. As I said a few posts back, I don't think it's any one thing. If it was just the building design or use that would be one thing but it's also the RFP and engagement processes and the Science Centre and the climate issues and the loss of greenery (right...

If I had proof Kinga Surma was a TNG fan, I'd find a lot more of this thread comprehensible. Until then, I'm going to hope /assume that even she and whoever reviewed the RFP looked at one of the most important sites the Province owns and gave more thought to the decision than, "well, it's better...

Nonsense!. CFB Trenton and Parliament Hill are public land and we can all go to either whenever we want. If Justin Trudeau wants to let Madame Tussaud open a wax museum at the gates and start charging admission at either location, both will be still basically be publicly accesssible the same way...

If you lease an apartment, a car or anything else there are stipulations about the condition in which it's returned. Usually, you're not allowed to knock out walls, add a spoiler to the car or, you know, anything else that will significantly change the appearance or function. You make it sound...

This statement is either naive or an attempt at obfuscation. It will be theirs until long after every single person currently on this forum is dead; the current buildings are only 50 years old and this is almost twice that term. It's a LONG time. And it's not like once they're done, they're...

No - because you are avoiding the relevant defintion. Canada's Wonderland is publicly accessible if I pay. So is the front row of Taylor Swift's show and so is a camp site at Algonquin Park and so is the first class section of a flight to Paris,. Who cares? What is RELEVANT in this context is...

Well, I can only speak for myself. I have no problem with the principle of bringing on a private partner to run an appropriate and appropriately scaled business at Ontario Place in a manner that allows for the rest of the site to be leveraged. I don't think anyone is scared (at least not in the...

First of all, you don't seem to grasp what private means in this context. One thing it doesn't mean is "owned and operated by a government," which Ontario Place has always been. Ergo, not private. If you really want to split hairs, the Province is merely leasing land to Therme for 99 years but...

And yet Live Nation manages to operate its business presently, with the existing parking and no shiny, new, government-funded subway station across the street. Curious. EDIT - just to add , this is the parking assessment from their submission:

No. A lot of Alqonquin Park would still be there, in my rather absurd hypothetical, but the land where Dave & Busters is would be a formerly public site that has been privatized. But keep peddling whatever wares you've got, I guess. Maybe someone here or out there in the world will buy that...

This is a red herring, really. While some are, most people are not opposed to any kind of paid or private attraction. It's the specifics of this proposal, as detailed throughout, that are the issue. Yes, Ontario Place had admission fees and waterslides and a flume ride but it was still a public...

Yeah, this is all true. But even so, the Provincial agency maintains ownership of the lands directly along the river and at the edge of the falls. It's not a perfect comparison but Clifton Hiill's proximity to the falls is a bit like the Ex is to Ontario Place's waterfront; it's kinda across the...

I guess it's a small miracle they're not putting a casino at Ontario Place but I think the point all along is there's nothing inherently wrong with a casino or a waterpark or whatever. Indeed, all things being equal, I think the Therme Spa sounds like a fun place to visit. Cool, even! The...

I guess the Gee article is a reminder there are other opinions out there and it's not so much a question of right or wrong... but also some people are drinking the Kool Aid the government is selling. Here's another quote from the article: Though the critics may turn up their noses, ordinary...

I feel like this gets explained over and over on social media and forums like this. -MX designs stations, not TOC -IO designs TOC, not stations If MX produces a rendering that doesn't show a TOC they haven't designed, a deal for which may well not yet exist, it doesn't mean there won't be an...

If I can shift to metric, the Growth Plan minimum is 400 people + jobs per hectare. Langstaff is 47 hectares. 20,000 housing units = roughly 35,000 residents. And that's only about 60% of the full area from Bayview to Yonge. So probably we're talking about 50,000 residents, give or take, in the...

"Rogers Centre" has way less character than "SkyDome" but I dunno that "Rogers SkyDome" is any better and, really, it's still a better than like 1/3 of current US ballpark names (eg Guaranteed Rate Field, Loan Depot Park, T-Mobile, Petco etc. etc.) Given what a mega-corp they are, it kinda...

Yes - just to remind everyone that several things can be true: -these areas are very dense but not as dense as Asian slums but still much denser than the municipalities were targeting -these graphics are glorified massing models showing the approved heights/blocks etc. but they are not...