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And in your mind I must show government official proof to prove that it's wrong... See what I mean? If we're being lead into deception then why would our controllers allow new evidence that goes against their version of the story to be released? This is where open-mindedness and depth comes into...

Again the same old replies... I like how you quote things I say but don't actually address but instead just.. well the same thing you always do. Grissie you keep your faith in big government and see how it works out for you. Well.. Not if you question me, but you never ask good questions...

You're not one to lecture me on what the issue is because you don't decide what the issue is in this thread and you constantly hide behind stupid generalizations because you are incapable of discussing the topic and you know it. Your arguments do not discuss the topic, they just work as an...

Why not just quit being so blind and wake up to the real political agenda then? Is there really any good reason to sit in denial and be deceived by a lie? You're going to end up waking up sooner or later anyways

And yet you can't explain anything

I've never said that anyone who thinks differently is obviously in on the conspiracy, although I did observe that the people who try and make people like me look insane are always struggling to make me/them look stupid etc... If I created a generalized unbeatable argument than I would continue...

Yes... but there's more to something than what you see. Just because they showed 3d-models and other things that made it look professionally doesn't mean to any extent that the investigation was done honestly. And also saying that these people are open-minded I'm not sure where you got that...

People are waking up. People here who still think 9/11 was not an inside job argue like politicians with an agenda. they generalize, manipulate, contradict, attack while avoiding simple questions asked.. It's amazing because whenever I go into detail about something they immediately shoot me...

You haven't even been able to define what open-mindedness is. Keep being blind it's only a matter of time before you learn the hard way that our free countries are being taken over by a tyrannical government! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60K-wgVtlbE

Lucy: hundreds or at least one hundred that I know of. example:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8MhnaTvgUY Yea it's youtube but the audio recordings are real so that's what I find important anyway. I love the second question you asked because yes i have and originally that's what I believed like...

1. You automatically believe them without question why? The establishment has never lied to you? 2. That's a bit of a generalization to base your beliefs off of isn't it? Governments are powerful and can pay off or make anyone look like professionals. Why not look at the other side of the story...

http://www.youtube.com/user/thealexjoneschannel?blend=1&ob=4 I'll get to them in a moment. Bingo. Let's not forget that you won't discuss anything that I just discussed about the way you generalize and manipulated my posts, and neither will anyone else like Pie... I'll give a response to...

Alright just though i'd ask.. I was never trying to imply that you think that the government is perfect BTW. that's why I always say in general. But if you're not politically involved, how are you so sure that you're not being deceived?

The stuff I've shown is more than enough for anyone to questions the government. Why do you have such faith in government? After they lie over and over, do fraudulent things and get caught over and over(not including 9.11) And yet you still think that 9/11 was not staged? Here's a question...

He doesn't address me point by point, he quotes me point by point but he says the same thing each time. You've already refused to answer simple questions I've asked with the same excuse he used. Come on Lucy.. EDIT: Lucy, you don't have to address everything, but you(like him) haven't actually...

Oh now it's a fantasy? Because I cannot provide the evidence you're looking for(which is impossible to provide since what's considered official evidence is under the control of our controllers) It would be like having an abusive father who beats his kids, but in order for the son to prove to his...

I wasn't talking to you. You're way too far gone. Only time will wake you up now and trust me it will.

I know people have, but it's obvious that some people have an agenda. Also if you could see this issue through my eyes, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm far from someone who just believes anything he hears, I'm always staying open minded to things and that includes...

No. You're manipulating everything to try and make what I think about these events look ridiculous.. Give me a break! Important Points: I'm trying to get people to look outside the box and consider what i have to say and have shown. I'm not offering what i say as absolute proof. You won't...

Alright then Grissie you want it? here it is: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/shootdown.html?q=shootdown.html and here: http://www.911proof.com/ The point is the problem isn't that i don't show enough evidence, that's a front you guys...