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Two weeks ago... for work. All I saw was a bunch of vacant lots at the foot of the Don Valley... looks really good.

All they care about is money in their pockets? Wow, what selfish buggers they are.. all they did was earn it. They really need to give more and make do with less so that some can have an easy ride, supported by the tax man's largess, forced from those that have actually earned it. Maybe you...

I think John Tory is going to pick them up and take them out for iced cream.

Oh yeah, those trash filled, vacant lots along the Don River are really bringing in the bucks and tourists.

Why don't you just install your guy and ban elections? That way you can end the charade of having to support democracy. I bet a lot of folks here thought Bob Rae had a mandate with a whopping 33%, right?

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Smitherman.

Thank-you for finally explaining why I'm wrong! I don't mind being wrong, and I've learned two things... one is the return path for current from a streetcar.

The path of the current in my example is not intended to be the frame of the streetcar. The frame is grounded. A ground is a result. A short would indicate that the leaked current is somehow finding it's way back to it's intended path (like shorting across a pair of conductors), but in my...

I answered your basic question: Now if what I've said, in answer to your question is incorrect, then correct it. It's there for all to see...

You've proven nothing. Since I don't know what I'm talking about, please correct me, then you've proven something.

Yeah, sure Doug, they eliminated grounds in electrical systems around the same time as small pox.

Sigh. No, I'm suggesting that grounds are a problem that streetcars face as a drawback vs. buses. The point of this is you s**t on me and I'm defending myself. I think you understand exactly what I'm saying, you're just stirring the pot.

Solved over a century ago? Insulators break down over time. Ground faults are still an everyday problem, which is why the circuity is equipped with GFI. The fact that you think GF problems are a thing of the past belies a little ignorance on your part. Maybe you said that only to for the sake...

I think that is true if you factor out congestion, but having to navigate through traffic and sitting at traffic lights, I think the inherent efficiency is lost. The problem I have with LRT's is that they are generally not separated from surface traffic.

With respect to a traction motor, Doug, it is when a conductive substance like water creates a path between an energized conductor, such as a cable leading to the traction motor, and likely a frame.

Explain?

Yes.

Ok, Doug, traction motors don't suffer from ground fault issues during inclement weather.

Are the traction motors not essentially the same?

Asterix, if streetcars were the cheapest alternative with the greatest cost benefit per trip, why did the TTC retract the network and go with buses?