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It doesn't. Where are you getting that?
Also it doesn't. What is your source for that?
Goodness gracious that's quite a bill for just three years!
It's nuanced, not sure how it's hard to believe an 18 km windy route with 7 sharp turns and 27 stops could be potentially slower than bus lines that don't travel this exact route. Also for context, buses regularly do the Line 6 FW route faster than 30 minutes in the late evening. But again, travel time isn't the end all be all. It's the loss of one seat rides to Kennedy etc.
Damn I didn't even notice I missed a zero, think I could get a job at Metrolinx?Goodness gracious that's quite a bill for just three years!
Wonder what was the total maintenance/reconstruction/policing/towing/painting/changing the light bulbs/etc. bill for the Gardiner Expressway and Don Valley Parkway from the 1950's to 2016? For comparison purposes.
As long as you hire at least three consultants to report to you
Now I'm 100% sure you are mistaken. $4 billion is not the cost of the maintenance contract. Not all costs during the 30 year concession period are for maintenance either. Example:
There is no confusion here, 2.35 out of 10.65 billion is for 60 years of maintenance and operations.
i mean ridership calculations use total travel time as a key factor so i can see the math returning 5k less passengers based off that alone. Now would that translate to real world ridership? doubt it... but the formulas used would be sensitive to a 1 minute difference
I remember from a public meeting a few years back that the 1 minute slower travel time was compared to the 905 bus to UTSC, not the whole route. Unsure if we've gotten travel times for the northern portion of the line
Oh ... you are looking at the out-of-date 2022 INITIAL Business Case. The 2023 case clearly says the LRT is 22 km/hr versus the 18 km/hr bus. https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2023/ex/bgrd/backgroundfile-241047.pdf
Only if I can set the arrival date back to 2022.
I have no doubt that buses can beat LRT when there's relatively few riders and no traffic congestion. When I've ridden the night bus on Danforth at 6 AM it easily beats the subway from Parliament to Woodbine - less walking too.
reading into their ridership assumptions I'm not buying it. How is the line in the 2023 case faster than the bus when there are the same number of stops and less grade separation than the 2022 case when it was slower?
I knew you knew this, point is, what kind of bus would take the crazy Line 7 route? It's no wonder taking more direct buses would be faster for certain trips in the area. Line 7 would create one seat rides for certain trips, which would be appreciated by less mobile folks, but at the cost of longer door-to-door time which would not be appreciated by everyone else.
All those tight turns around UTSC. Imagine how slow the LRT's will be going around here. Looks similar to the proposed Mississauga downtown loop.
Especially if the line ends up stuck with Citadis Spirit or some similarly flawed rolling stock
Presumably because the bus can't handle the projected ridership growth, with buses almost every minute, causing delays at each light, and particularly gapping which then slows service with greater than peak loads. Then the increased traffic makes it difficult for the express buses to overtake the local services. The reports are lacking in enough details to get a full grasp on how they did the modelling, but I think what happened, is that the model can't directly account for capacity issues, and just blindly assumes that capacity is available for each mode.
