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PL1 said:
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Supposed meal on the USS Abraham Lincoln.
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If it is true that provisions on some ships are low, my speculation would be that the Administration (Trump/Hegseth) felt that this would be such a quick and easy win that they didn't allow for the necessary work-up (and possibly over-riding objections from military planners). Many people don't realize how much goes into a large-scale deployment - in many cases it takes months of planning and preparation along with a logistics trail to supply multiple ships and hundreds of sailors. I forget which carrier task forces were deployed to the Gulf, but suspect they were already part way through a deployment cycle. Without spending several weeks in a friendly port loading up on provisions (and pre-arranging with contracted suppliers), their larders were possibly partially empty when they showed up on stations.
 
lenaitch said:
If it is true that provisions on some ships are low, my speculation would be that the Administration (Trump/Hegseth) felt that this would be such a quick and easy win that they didn't allow for the necessary work-up (and possibly over-riding objections from military planners). Many people don't realize how much goes into a large-scale deployment - in many cases it takes months of planning and preparation along with a logistics trail to supply multiple ships and hundreds of sailors. I forget which carrier task forces were deployed to the Gulf, but suspect they were already part way through a deployment cycle. Without spending several weeks in a friendly port loading up on provisions (and pre-arranging with contracted suppliers), their larders were possibly partially empty when they showed up on stations.
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Look at it this way: if the tech billionaires have their way, war will be conducted by AI and the question of "food" will be redundant. (Just another element in their post-human callousness. Artificially generated bots who don't require food, who don't require salaries, etc. You can even generate your own 13-year-old girl to Epstein; or if you go too far and Robin Leach her, you can generate a replacement, no problem.)
 
lenaitch said:
I forget which carrier task forces were deployed to the Gulf
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Currently, there are two carrier groups in the theatre lead by USS Ford and USS Lincoln plus an MEU "diet" carrier Tripoli. There is a third carrier task force lead by USS Bush streaming into the theater (currently near Madagascar).

The only carrier group suffering from overextended deployment is the USS Ford (which spent nearly half a year on a deployment to the Caribbean to deal with Venezuela before heading straight to the Middle East without taking a break), and she's not the one suffering from food shortages. Lincoln and Tripoli came from forward-deployment bases in the Indo-Pacific.

I found a plausible explanation for the food problems they are experiencing. The navy ships are resupplied using dry cargo ships which shuttle the supplies from the logistics hubs to the deployed fleets. US has naval logistics hubs all over the world for this. The problem for this theatre is that the dedicated hub is the Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bahrain. Bahrain being inside the Persian Gulf and the fleet stationed in the Arabian Sea outside of the gulf with the whole Straight of Hormuz situation in between the fleet and the NSA hub. So the supply lines had to be stretched with the resupply coming from far away bases in Greece and Singapore.

This certainly explains why USS Ford is not suffering from food shortages as she is the only carrier that spent most of her time in the Red Sea - Mediterranean Sea area throughout the conflict. She even recently went back to Greece for repairs after suffering a massive dumpster fire (or something of the sorts). She was basically closer so the supply routes.
 
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lenaitch said:
If it is true that provisions on some ships are low, my speculation would be that the Administration (Trump/Hegseth) felt that this would be such a quick and easy win that they didn't allow for the necessary work-up (and possibly over-riding objections from military planners). Many people don't realize how much goes into a large-scale deployment - in many cases it takes months of planning and preparation along with a logistics trail to supply multiple ships and hundreds of sailors. I forget which carrier task forces were deployed to the Gulf, but suspect they were already part way through a deployment cycle. Without spending several weeks in a friendly port loading up on provisions (and pre-arranging with contracted suppliers), their larders were possibly partially empty when they showed up on stations.
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That carrier group had been deployed to support the Venezuela blockade and Maduro extraction. Morale must be in the gutter.
 
Full Metal Junkie said:
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Currently, there are two carrier groups in the theatre lead by USS Ford and USS Lincoln plus an MEU "diet" carrier Tripoli. There is a third carrier task force lead by USS Bush streaming into the theater (currently near Madagascar).

The only carrier group suffering from overextended deployment is the USS Ford (which spent nearly half a year on a deployment to the Caribbean to deal with Venezuela before heading straight to the Middle East without taking a break), and she's not the one suffering from food shortages. Lincoln and Tripoli came from forward-deployment bases in the Indo-Pacific.

I found a plausible explanation for the food problems they are experiencing. The navy ships are resupplied using dry cargo ships which shuttle the supplies from the logistics hubs to the deployed fleets. US has naval logistics hubs all over the world for this. The problem for this theatre is that the dedicated hub is the Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bahrain. Bahrain being inside the Persian Gulf and the fleet stationed in the Arabian Sea outside of the gulf with the whole Straight of Hormuz situation in between the fleet and the NSA hub. So the supply lines had to be stretched with the resupply coming from far away bases in Greece and Singapore.

This certainly explains why USS Ford is not suffering from food shortages as she is the only carrier that spent most of her time in the Red Sea - Mediterranean Sea area throughout the conflict. She even recently went back to Greece for repairs after suffering a massive dumpster fire (or something of the sorts). She was basically closer so the supply routes.
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It seems someone on another forum sussed out that the image I posted had been altered. They didn't go as far to say it was not from a USN ship, but it does damage its credibility.
 
Disabled military veterans arrested for peacefully protesting the Iran War at Capitol Hill. A coalition of 200 veterans standing at attention, held red tulips honoring Iranians killed by US bombs, and conducted a flag-folding ceremony symbolizing the US troops killed.

The veterans demanded Speaker Mike Johnson come meet them to accept the folded flag and pledge to not continue funding of the war. At least 60 were arrested while waiting for Johnson to meet their demands.

Those arrested included Executive Director of Veterans For Peace Michael McPhearson and Executive Director of @centeronconscience Mike Prysner
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Northern Light said:
The above story, for those who haven't clicked through, suggests that at least 2 U.S. navy ships deployed to the Iran theatre are very short on food.

My first instinct was that this was possibly an exaggeration. But through a contact, I am satisfied that there is severe rationing.

To me, that's well and truly bizarre. The Pentagon is not short of budget, solidiers/sailors eat a predictable amount...........so something in the logistics chain has gone badly awry.

I think it would be interesting to hear @kEiThZ take on this, and if he has any insight into the cause.
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I personally don't buy this one. We're talking about a military that flew in a mobile Burger King to Afghanistan and had barges going around the Pacific producing ice cream during WWII.

This is more than likely a picture from a person getting an off-cycle meal (if real). On ships, if you're working a late shift, you may end up with leftovers because the cook has clocked out and just set aside leftovers for anybody who hasn't eaten.

Absent some significant logistics failure (which would be much bigger news than one photo) highly unlikely they are actually running out of food. A commander in a theatre will practically get whatever they want when it comes to basics like food, clothing, small arms ammo. Hell, they had regular steak and lobster dinners in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's kind of an unwritten rule in Western militaries to never mess with food.

Honestly, I'm a lot more worried about the commercial shipping crews. They're not being allowed back in to port and I've seen reports of dire conditions.
 
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