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Do the seats recline? That's all I need for a relatively short overnight train. I took the VIA once from Toronto Calgary and slept in my seat.
prob no different than the VIA ventures. so it may be an uncomfortable ride overnight,
I tried doing this on The Ocean once. Do NOT recommend it.
It was 1987, I was 16 and broke. I brought a jar of jam and a loaf of bread and ate that for three days straight from Toronto to Calgary, lol. The things we do when we're young.
Bélanger advocating for Via Rail Budd Car improvements
Sudbury East—Manitoulin—Nickel Belt Conservative MP Jim Bélanger rode the Budd Car to and from White River earlier this month and considers it an ‘essential’ service
Would you do it the same way today, in your condition and age? You are the younger end of the target ridership for travel on the Nothlander.
can we move the conversation from improvements to REPLACEMENT? im not sure why we have to continually scrape more seconds out of a 70 year old relic instead of actively finding suitable new replacements?Bélanger advocating for Via Rail Budd Car improvements
Sudbury East—Manitoulin—Nickel Belt Conservative MP Jim Bélanger rode the Budd Car to and from White River earlier this month and considers it an ‘essential’ service
As long as the seats recline it's no worse than a premium economy flight from Toronto to Asia. Emirates gold class aside, no one is offering you a curtained off berth on a 18-hour flight to Taiwan, so I don't expect it on a 10-12 hour train ride from Timmins to Toronto. I don't see why we expect rail service to give us a bed when air service does not. Best part about rail traffic is the ability to get up and move around easily.
I'll be interested to hear from people like you to see whether that sentiment still holds. Remember, planes tend to find smoother air to avoid turbulence. That is not as easy on a train. Hopefully though much of that roughness has been mitigated on the line.
The current White River service is a day train. What is more likely to work out in the event of an extension to TB - a Jasper-Prince Rupert overnight stop in White River, or operating at night? Folks between Thunder Bay and White River might be cheesed off if they end up with an unsocial hours limited stop service while the communities east of White River get daytime flag stop service. And where's the tourism potential in transiting the shore of Superior at night?Total ridership (on/off) for the year was 6,964. Source: VIA Rail
Sudbury-White River Train
Train Information+ Corridor: Sudbury to White River Frequency: Three times a week in each direction (Year Round) Service Provider: VIA Rail Schedule: Westbound | Eastbound Ridership Data+ Detailed …northerntracks.blog
I still believe this train needs to be extended West to Thunder Bay. There is more of a market to generate year round ridership with the addition of Marathon, Terrace Bay, Schreiber, Nipigon, Shuniah, a few First Nation communities, and last, but certainly not least, Thunder Bay.
The issue you run into is due to various things, White River may not be able to support that kind of train. This comes down to hotels and restaurants.
How freight crews operate is they may be taxied home. I'd imagine ONR may put them on an ON bus home.
The difference of course being that there is no viable alternative way to get to Taiwan, so people need to suffer through whatever accommodation they can afford. To get from Timmins to Toronto is only a 1h20 flight, so for the train to be competitive among people who could afford the flight, it needs to be much more comfortable.
