Dundas St Rapid Transit (Metrolinx, Mississauga, Halton Region, CoT)

[ownthesky]

Halton drivers have been dealing with years of Dundas St widening and construction, expected to wrap up in 2027. Given there’s no mention of a BRT in their construction plans for the public to digest, are voters going to have a meltdown when Metrolinx finally gets this going and pushes to rip their road up again?

 

[afransen]

Halton drivers have been dealing with years of Dundas St widening and construction, expected to wrap up in 2027. Given there’s no mention of a BRT in their construction plans for the public to digest, are voters going to have a meltdown when Metrolinx finally gets this going and pushes to rip their road up again?

It won't impact Halton for decades.

 

[imerk]

Halton is mostly just going to have curb lanes repainted.

 

[drum118]

Halton is mostly just going to have curb lanes repainted.

Even Mississauga is using curb lanes west of Confederation where the ROW will end and it will be decades before the ROW will get to the 403. Density is not there to meet ML requirements for an ROW to Waterdown for a few decades.

One thing to keep in mind, as long as Ford is in office, removing a traffic lane is not on radar like bike lanes. Unless there a bus passing a point every 3 minutes let alone 5, an ROW is not needed. Jump-ques are only needed for stops at this time.

 

[sixrings]

Even Mississauga is using curb lanes west of Confederation where the ROW will end and it will be decades before the ROW will get to the 403. Density is not there to meet ML requirements for an ROW to Waterdown for a few decades.

One thing to keep in mind, as long as Ford is in office, removing a traffic lane is not on radar like bike lanes. Unless there a bus passing a point every 3 minutes let alone 5, an ROW is not needed. Jump-ques are only needed for stops at this time.

I would have liked the row to get to mavis.

 

[Wm Perkins Bull]

Even Mississauga is using curb lanes west of Confederation where the ROW will end and it will be decades before the ROW will get to the 403. Density is not there to meet ML requirements for an ROW to Waterdown for a few decades.

One thing to keep in mind, as long as Ford is in office, removing a traffic lane is not on radar like bike lanes. Unless there a bus passing a point every 3 minutes let alone 5, an ROW is not needed. Jump-ques are only needed for stops at this time.

Steeles in Brampton is currently below 4 minute headways and once the LRT opens it will drop below 3 minute headways.

 

[Allandale25]

Just saw this in the Brampton Guardian.

Stantec selected to lead design for 7-kilometre Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Mississauga East corridor in Ontario​

Thursday, May 8, 2025


EDMONTON, Alberta and NEW YORK, May 08, 2025 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — TSX, NYSE:STN

Stantec, a global leader in sustainable design and engineering, has been selected by the City of Mississauga to lead detailed design and contract administration on the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Mississauga East Corridor, which includes more than 7 kilometres of bus rapid transit (BRT) with 8 stops. Led by the City of Mississauga, the Dundas BRT Mississauga East segment has an estimated project budget of C$580 million, which includes design and construction, land acquisition, and additional regional utility upgrades to be coordinated to increase construction efficiency.

Just saw this in the Brampton Guardian.

 

[Amare]

The crazy thing is, for $580 million, Mississauga isnt taking the opportunity to relocate utilities along Dundas now.

Which means if they ever want to upgrade this to LRT in the future, they will be paying mountains more in the future to do it and it wont be as simple to do compared to if they actually relocated utilities with this project.

 

[drum118]

The crazy thing is, for $580 million, Mississauga isnt taking the opportunity to relocate utilities along Dundas now.

Which means if they ever want to upgrade this to LRT in the future, they will be paying mountains more in the future to do it and it wont be as simple to do compared to if they actually relocated utilities with this project.

The city has no plans to convert the BRT to LRT in the Future and why they did not spend the extra millions to do so now. At the same time, they will have to do a new EA for the LRT and they are not prepare to wait an extra 6-9 months for it as they want shovels in the ground as plan.

Not all of the utilities are been relocated for an LRT, than those required for an BRT. Some utilities maybe relocated for LRT as work take place based on comments made at Council last year when a motion was put forth to convert the BRT to LRT but was shot down.

 

[jys]

List of bids that were submitted for the first phase of the Dundas BRT East through Mississauga. Shortlist should be out soon I think. From here.

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Can anyone recap when this design-build RFP was cancelled and why? I know they've since awarded a design contract (early 2025), leading to a minimum 2-year delay in the process.

 

[Toffy]

Can anyone recap when this design-build RFP was cancelled and why? I know they've since awarded a design contract (early 2025), leading to a minimum 2-year delay in the process.

I don't know the exact reason and as far as I know the City has not publicly stated the reason for it (in a corporate report, media release or otherwise). Surely it's something that would have caught media attention in Toronto, but us Mississaugans are SOL.

In September 2024 the General Committee received a staff report titled "2024 Rapid Transit Program Update". The report doesn't acknowledge the cancellation of the design-build-RFP or the design-build-RFP at all for that matter, but states "The 30% preliminary design was completed in early 2024. Due to the new provincial housing mandate, additional water and waste water infrastructure scope from the Region of Peel was incorporated into the Dundas BRT Mississauga East project scope of work."

In November 2024 the General Committee received a staff presentation regarding the status of City's rapid transit projects. As you'll see in the slide below a 2-year delay wouldn't sound so bad compared to what this last timeline estimate is...

 

[drum118]

https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=83995

 

[nfitz]

https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=83995

For the love of Freyja, can you please give us even half a hint of what you've linked here. So often it's something someone else has already linked, or is very old!

 

[Sauga89]

For the love of Freyja, can you please give us even half a hint of what you've linked here. So often it's something someone else has already linked, or is very old!

It's an update to Mississauga city council on the city's rapid transit projects. I've copied the portions that relate to the Dundas BRT.

The Mississauga East Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) Detailed Design study began in March 2025, with utilities work and other early activities expected between late 2026 and 2027. Detailed design and property acquisition, which started in 2025, will continue through 2027. Early construction on select segments of the Dundas BRT Mississauga East is anticipated to begin in late 2026.

Dundas Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) Mississauga East

In May 2018, City of Mississauga completed the Dundas Connects Master Plan, which established a transportation and planning vision for Dundas Street through a comprehensive consultation process. As recommended in the report titled ‘Dundas Connects Master Plan’ to General Committee on June 20, 2018, City Council subsequently endorsed the Dundas BRT Mississauga East project, which recommended centre-median running BRT for a 7 kilometre segment of the Dundas Street between Etobicoke Creek and Confederation Parkway. A rendering of the proposed Dundas BRT is shown below in Figure 1.

The Dundas BRT Mississauga East received a Notice to Proceed from the Provincial Government in April 2022 following the completion and approval of the Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP). The 30% preliminary design was completed in early 2024. Updates to the project scope include the new provincial housing mandate and additional water and wastewater infrastructure from the Region of Peel. The Detailed Design Request for Proposal (RFP) for the Dundas BRT Mississauga East was released in September 2024, with study commencement in March 2025. Detailed design, early works, and other preparatory activities are expected between 2026 and 2027, with phased construction anticipated to begin in 2027.

Dundas Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) Mississauga West

As recommended in the Corporate Report titled “Request for Authority to Enter into Cost Sharing Agreement with Metrolinx to undertake the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Corridor Preliminary Design and Transit Project Assessment Process” on July 8, 2023 to General Committee, the City and Metrolinx entered into a cost sharing agreement to undertake the Dundas Bus Rapid Transit Corridor Preliminary Design and Transit Project Assessment Process. The Dundas BRT Mississauga West runs along the Dundas Street corridor between Ninth Line and Confederation Parkway. This segment has completed 10% design and a business case led by Metrolinx. Further advancement to 30% design and the filing of the Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) are currently under review by the Rapid Transit Program Office.

 

[Sauga89]

Mississauga city council has also received an update from city staff on proposed changes to provincial and federal legislation. It's a big report, with recommendations from city staff, but here is a section about BRTs.

Priority Routes and Service Integration (BRT Corridors)

Bill 98 provides the Province with authority to define priority routes which may cross municipal boundaries for the purpose of service integration. This may include establishing minimum service standards and require a municipality to travel outside of its traditional jurisdiction. These changes will have a direct impact on operating costs, revenue-sharing, fleet utilization and working conditions, creating uncertainty for service planning, budgeting of both capital and operating costs and overall financial sustainability. Mississauga developed operating and capital plans for conventional transit and bus rapid transit corridors (BRT) on Lakeshore East, Dundas Street, Burnhamthorpe Road, Dixie Road and Derry Road through its Council-approved Transit, Roads and Infrastructure Plan (“TRIP” report) and MiWay 5+plan. These plans have been developed over a period of many years and are funded, in part, through the local tax base and other eligible funding programs. If these projects are impacted by Bill 98, there may be broader funding implications.

Recommendation: Council support the principle of service integration, however, it recognizes the local impact on current and future operations and therefore requests:

•  Full participation on all aspects of determining priority routes and plans for service integration which may alter current or future MiWay operations
•  An agreed-upon cost-sharing formula for both capital and operating costs associated with travelling outside of Mississauga’s current jurisdiction and,
•  That Mississauga be made whole by the province in the event that other funding programs are negatively impacted by changes arising from this legislation.