Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[A 6264]

I wanted to make note of last train times at certain line 5 stations, but the TTC's website is still showing old times, where the line closes after 11 PM. You would think they would have updated their site first thing Sunday morning. Or am I misunderstanding, and new times have not started yet?
https://www.ttc.ca/routes-and-schedules/5/0

 

[smallspy]

I think that as much flak as everyone gives Crosslinx, a larger maintenance window is something that they can be given allowance on.

Agree to disagree here. They deserve all the flak that they get, and then some.

Still, why not have that larger maintenance window happen on a Sunday night instead of Saturday? Lines up better with the Monday-Friday 9-5ers, and the workers performing maintenance are on a night shift anyway so I doubt it matters much whether they're doing it on a early Sunday morning or an early Monday morning.

The problem is not so much the window itself, but what they do with it.

While there may be a 5 hour window where service doesn't operate most nights of the week, the reality is that the actual time that they have to do the work is considerably less. Service trains need to deadhead back to the yard. MOW equipment needs to get out to where the work is doing. The crews need to set up their equipment, do the work, and take it all back down in time to get the MOW equipment back to the yard before the service trains start deadheading out to their starting locations. All of a sudden, that 5 hour window may only be 3 hours of actual work, or even less.

The larger window on Saturday nights gives them more time to do the work as the amount of time that they have at any given site is considerably longer.

This is the reason why the TTC does a lot of early closings or late openings on the subway. Some of the jobs that they need to do just need a longer stretch of time in order to complete them - such as beam replacements on the Prince Edward Viaduct. There are some jobs that you just can't leave half-finished. In other cases - like the tunnel lining remediation project on North Yonge - getting a couple of additional hours of work every single night allowed them to greatly speed up the completion of the project.

Circling back to Crosslinx in particular, the question that should be asked is - why do they need this extended maintenance period every week extended by this much? If it's a cost-avoidance issue - which, frankly wouldn't surprise me - than I think that the TTC is well within their rights to tell them to pound rocks.

Dan

 

[doublemint]

Agree to disagree here. They deserve all the flak that they get, and then some.


The problem is not so much the window itself, but what they do with it.

While there may be a 5 hour window where service doesn't operate most nights of the week, the reality is that the actual time that they have to do the work is considerably less. Service trains need to deadhead back to the yard. MOW equipment needs to get out to where the work is doing. The crews need to set up their equipment, do the work, and take it all back down in time to get the MOW equipment back to the yard before the service trains start deadheading out to their starting locations. All of a sudden, that 5 hour window may only be 3 hours of actual work, or even less.

The larger window on Saturday nights gives them more time to do the work as the amount of time that they have at any given site is considerably longer.

This is the reason why the TTC does a lot of early closings or late openings on the subway. Some of the jobs that they need to do just need a longer stretch of time in order to complete them - such as beam replacements on the Prince Edward Viaduct. There are some jobs that you just can't leave half-finished. In other cases - like the tunnel lining remediation project on North Yonge - getting a couple of additional hours of work every single night allowed them to greatly speed up the completion of the project.

Circling back to Crosslinx in particular, the question that should be asked is - why do they need this extended maintenance period every week extended by this much? If it's a cost-avoidance issue - which, frankly wouldn't surprise me - than I think that the TTC is well within their rights to tell them to pound rocks.

Dan

Thank you for the insight

 

[Bordercollie]

Agree to disagree here. They deserve all the flak that they get, and then some.


The problem is not so much the window itself, but what they do with it.

While there may be a 5 hour window where service doesn't operate most nights of the week, the reality is that the actual time that they have to do the work is considerably less. Service trains need to deadhead back to the yard. MOW equipment needs to get out to where the work is doing. The crews need to set up their equipment, do the work, and take it all back down in time to get the MOW equipment back to the yard before the service trains start deadheading out to their starting locations. All of a sudden, that 5 hour window may only be 3 hours of actual work, or even less.

The larger window on Saturday nights gives them more time to do the work as the amount of time that they have at any given site is considerably longer.

This is the reason why the TTC does a lot of early closings or late openings on the subway. Some of the jobs that they need to do just need a longer stretch of time in order to complete them - such as beam replacements on the Prince Edward Viaduct. There are some jobs that you just can't leave half-finished. In other cases - like the tunnel lining remediation project on North Yonge - getting a couple of additional hours of work every single night allowed them to greatly speed up the completion of the project.

Circling back to Crosslinx in particular, the question that should be asked is - why do they need this extended maintenance period every week extended by this much? If it's a cost-avoidance issue - which, frankly wouldn't surprise me - than I think that the TTC is well within their rights to tell them to pound rocks.

Dan

Considering that my experience with early morning subway departures is that there is at least a 15-30 minute delay in starting service. And according to the operators this is almost a daily occurrence. Why bother posting a schedule to have trains start at 5:30am if doesn't happen? This is why i never trust early subway departures and use an uber/taxi or drive to my destination unless I have a lot of time for buffer.

 

[smallspy]

Considering that my experience with early morning subway departures is that there is at least a 15-30 minute delay in starting service. And according to the operators this is almost a daily occurrence. Why bother posting a schedule to have trains start at 5:30am if doesn't happen? This is why i never trust early subway departures and use an uber/taxi or drive to my destination unless I have a lot of time for buffer.

That's your personal experience. My personal experience is that I don't have enough digits and limbs to count number the times that I've taken the very first train of the morning and had it arrive precisely on time - as it should.

Dan