Mississauga Hurontario-Main Line 10 LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx

[JJTheJetPln]

With the progress they're moving at, I bet they really want to finish up Mississauga before moving the rest of the crews to Brampton to finish everything up to Steeles. Time will tell, and it's why I'm sitting on the edge of my chair hoping that they're able to start doing testing.

 

[urbanclient]

It is very safe to say the line will open in 2028

The line will open in 2028.

You really trust Metrolinx huh...

It can take up to one year or more after (virtually all) the physical infrastructure is finished, i.e. Line 6 and Line 5.

AFAIK 12 months is the upper bound for how long it takes to open a Chinese metro after construction is complete.

I don't see Hurontario being physically complete in the next 1-2 years. Correct me if I am wrong. If we compare to Line 6, I don't recall no OCS, and large stretches of unfinished track for Line 6 in 2023.

The 2029 number was thrown around by people before. I don't have any faith in 2028, just like how I didn't believe Line 5 would open before November 1st.

 

[drum118]

With the progress they're moving at, I bet they really want to finish up Mississauga before moving the rest of the crews to Brampton to finish everything up to Steeles. Time will tell, and it's why I'm sitting on the edge of my chair hoping that they're able to start doing testing.

Sunday was a shirty for you trying to fly between the wind, gusting of it, trying to it in rain, Ice pallets storms, trying to snow that came in short flair up until a major one roll in while up at Britannia that I call it a day with no shelter other than my bus was four minutes away.

You will see the guideway dug to Steeles either this month or in May as not much more of it to be done in Mississauga these days,

Until I have a look at the north end especially Topflight and the OMSF guideway, i still say by June or the summer a slow walking pull test will take place for the first LRV down to Eglinton for the plan test bed for burning in the fleet and training. As to when the first power walking testing will take is base on when the OS is installed and tested before going full power but it will be this year. It is possible the pull test may get down to Hwy 403 where the line leaves the road.as well along with power testing.

At this time, Britannia intersection has no left tun in all directions other than for westbound traffic on Britannia with Britannia westbound lanes reduced to a single lane around barriers in the centre of the intersection waiting for trackwork to begin. No idea what remaining intersections from 2023 construction will see any work that may push testing back a few months.

Also, no truck traffic is to use the 401 overpass nightly from 10pm to 5 am and no idea why.

You really trust Metrolinx huh...

It can take up to one year or more after (virtually all) the physical infrastructure is finished, i.e. Line 6 and Line 5.

AFAIK 12 months is the upper bound for how long it takes to open a Chinese metro after construction is complete.

I don't see Hurontario being physically complete in the next 1-2 years. Correct me if I am wrong. If we compare to Line 6, I don't recall no OCS, and large stretches of unfinished track for Line 6 in 2023.

The 2029 number was thrown around by people before. I don't have any faith in 2028, just like how I didn't believe Line 5 would open before November 1st.

Have you look at the corridor in person the last few weeks to backup your statement??? I have and the line will be running sometime in 2028 that even ML is seeing the same thing and saying unofficially as well not public.. When ML goes to the three councils this month, it will be good news with no date being given or a timeline as they normally due unless they decide to say some time in 2028. Then for the public on line Town Hall Meeting in May or June..

Being on the safe side, I will say full testing on the line will start in September of 2027 and this will give at least 9 months of testing or more before opening of the line. It may happen sooner or later.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

You will see the guideway dug to Steeles either this month or in May as not much more of it to be done in Mississauga these days,

I've actually gone a few days after the video I took and saw that the guideways were mostly dug up with exception for a few meters before the S/B / N/B Ray Lawson intersection, and I believe between the court house entrance off Hurontario, which they haven't fully shifted the lanes over to yet.

There's another notice that just went up stating that stormwater drain work would be occuring at the intersection of Hurontario / Ray Lawson in the middle of the intersection from April 10th to 20th. They will probably need to do similar in front of the courthouse which is why that section hasn't been cut over yet either.

Until I have a look at the north end especially Topflight and the OMSF guideway, i still say by June or the summer a slow walking pull test will take place for the first LRV down to Eglinton for the plan test bed for burning in the fleet and training. As to when the first power walking testing will take is base on when the OS is installed and tested before going full power but it will be this year. It is possible the pull test may get down to Hwy 403 where the line leaves the road.as well along with power testing.

I've driven by the area down topflight, and there's two sections in the area that appear to need more work done. There's the one that's on topflight that is covered by an orange tarp, and then there's one just adjacent to the bus station that has pylons and such all over it. I'm not sure about that one because I haven't gotten a good chance to look at it, it's the section where they store much of the project hardware including the rails, poles and such.

If their notices are to be believed that they'll finish the Brampton section to Steeles from between March to sometime in October/November which includes the guideway, track and other hardware, then I would agree with late 2028.

 

[urbanclient]

Have you look at the corridor in person the last few weeks to backup your statement??? I have and the line will be running sometime in 2028 that even ML is seeing the same thing and saying unofficially as well not public..

If we compare to Line 6, I don't recall no OCS, and large stretches of unfinished track for Line 6 in 2023.

If you're saying Hurontario is in a similar state to Line 6 FW in 2023, then I stand corrected(?) or at least my hopes are buoyed a bit.

I found a source for this, so it's not just working off my flawed memory:

"By the end of March 2023, 56 of the 116 canopies were installed, 75 percent of the catenary poles were installed and 50 percent of the mainline tracks had been laid (not including the maintenance and storage facility).
[...]
"By October 2023, all rail and overhead catenary had been installed, and all 18 light-rail vehicles had received their final acceptance.[46] By November 2023, all platform canopies had been installed. [...] By mid-September 2024, construction had finished for the two terminal stations and all surface stops"

Line 6 Finch West - Wikipedia

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But in case you're partly going off ML's word... Well, ML wanted Line 5 Eglinton open by EOY 2025, but the TTC won that war of wills.

And ML does not have a good record of keeping its promises for completion dates... This far out from completion, I would give ML's word little weight.

This is all not to mention that they haven't fixed the Citadis Spirit bogie problems.

 

[ShonTron]

Guideway construction is well underway in Brampton now. It’s quite clear they’re stopping on the south side of Steeles, which is going to be a disaster for connecting passengers.

 

[FullMetalEngineer]

Guideway construction is well underway in Brampton now. It’s quite clear they’re stopping on the south side of Steeles, which is going to be a disaster for connecting passengers.

What a disaster, even after years of delays and commitments to extend north of Steeles they couldn't just simply put the last stop north of Steeles.

These idiots at Metrolinx/ Provincial Government like Brampton's own Prabmeet Sarkaria who is the Minister of Transportation and representative of this exact area of construction are claiming to work on multiple extensions(sq1 loop, Brampton tunnel) in parallel, but couldn't alter this one major problem at Gateway that has the will of city council behind it.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Guideway construction is well underway in Brampton now. It’s quite clear they’re stopping on the south side of Steeles, which is going to be a disaster for connecting passengers.
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Thanks for the photos, saves me some time.

I can't wait to see what if the conversation between ML and Brampton/Mississauga will be published or if ML will push for it to remain behind closed doors.

I would have been more than happy to see them on the NB side of steeles as per this recent map, but that section towards Bartley Bull is more than likely just a giant traffic island instead of what it should be.

 

[ShonTron]

Thanks for the photos, saves me some time.

I can't wait to see what if the conversation between ML and Brampton/Mississauga will be published or if ML will push for it to remain behind closed doors.

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I would have been more than happy to see them on the NB side of steeles as per this recent map, but that section towards Bartley Bull is more than likely just a giant traffic island instead of what it should be.

I’ll get out at another time in the next little while, but yes, it’s quite clear it will be just a giant traffic island. If there was a smidgeon of intelligence left, there would be a central north-south crosswalk to help distribute pedestrians, made possible with fully protected left turn phases.

 

[drum118]

Part 3 of 3
March 29
Trackwork between Kingsbridge and the Plaza crossing is now 100% poured. Both tracks on the south side need a small section of track encasements' with southbound trap. No work has started to finishing installing the trackwork from Watergarden To Eglinton that started in 2025 or was that 2024.

The no left turn at Watergarden Dr was to allow crew to build the bullnose for the sidewalk crossing.

All trackwork from Watergarden Dr to Nahina Way is now poured in place. Looks like all the unfinished trackwork from 2024 for Nahina Way to where it was poured in place looks like it is poured in place with work taking place where trackwork has to be rebuilt.

Odd, but none of the trackwork that has been poured in place since 2023 to date is fully splice together or trackwork waiting to be done. Some have small gaps while others have larger gaps.

OS poles are in place in most places with no brackets on them from Kingsbridge as far as I can see north of Nahina Way.

 

[doady]

Locals want a stop at Kingsbridge but a symbolic, feel-good Finch West-style LRT is not what Mississauga and Brampton need. The diversion off Hurontario is already bad enough. Any more stops and diversions, might well cancel construction and keep the buses.

 

[drum118]

Can any Brampton folks confirm if this correct regarding the digging of the guideway. I expect there is a driveway at the plaza/courthouse intersection as well Sir Lou, one for the fire station like it was done for the Queensway fire station, at Lancashire Ln and the south end of the east side plaza. Other than Ray Lawson and the fire station, what other intersection will see a 2 phase process to built the guideway across them that will take 2 months to do them in place of one full closure?

Fully agree that it is a major issue not moving the Steeles station to the northside now at Steeles. If anyone gets hit of kill, the person or family's should sue both ML and the Province for grouse negligence as they knew about it and unwilling to spent $20 million in 2019 to fix it considering the line will open 4 years late now..

If you're saying Hurontario is in a similar state to Line 6 FW in 2023, then I stand corrected(?) or at least my hopes are buoyed a bit.

I found a source for this, so it's not just working off my flawed memory:

"By the end of March 2023, 56 of the 116 canopies were installed, 75 percent of the catenary poles were installed and 50 percent of the mainline tracks had been laid (not including the maintenance and storage facility).
[...]
"By October 2023, all rail and overhead catenary had been installed, and all 18 light-rail vehicles had received their final acceptance.[46] By November 2023, all platform canopies had been installed. [...] By mid-September 2024, construction had finished for the two terminal stations and all surface stops"

Line 6 Finch West - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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But in case you're partly going off ML's word... Well, ML wanted Line 5 Eglinton open by EOY 2025, but the TTC won that war of wills.

And ML does not have a good record of keeping its promises for completion dates... This far out from completion, I would give ML's word little weight.

This is all not to mention that they haven't fixed the Citadis Spirit bogie problems.

If I remember correctly for line 6 in 2023 to where Hurontario is now, Hurontario is slightly ahead. Unlike Line 5 & 6, all Hurontario stations are centre platform with Derry 95% completed back in 2023. 4 stations have main framing up with roof on them and missing a lot of thing that should be done this year as well 5 other ready to be done. There are 6 more to be built. I know by a photo that there is 16 of the 27 LRV's in the yard and no clue to how many are inside considering it was full last year. Are they all here now or waiting for a few more?? ML will deal with Mobilinx and Transdev who will operate the line in place of TTC for that opening date

Trackwork and the overhead, especially the overhead will be the telling story by the end of the year when the line will open in 2028 not 2029. Info from a few sources for the 2028 timeframe. Then all the sidewalks from PC to Brampton stills has be be built.

The issue with the Citadis Spirit bogie is a dead issue and Alstom not prepared to spend money for a few hundred NA cars when trackwork doesn't comply to their standards for the 8,000+ sold so far in Europe and elsewhere. One reasons why existing trackwork is being built at great cost and delay.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

Can any Brampton folks confirm if this correct regarding the digging of the guideway. I expect there is a driveway at the plaza/courthouse intersection as well Sir Lou, one for the fire station like it was done for the Queensway fire station, at Lancashire Ln and the south end of the east side plaza. Other than Ray Lawson and the fire station, what other intersection will see a 2 phase process to built the guideway across them that will take 2 months to do them in place of one full closure?

Yeah, there's a fire station about 100m away or less from the intersection of Hurontario / County Court on the S/B side. I'm not sure how that'll work out for either of them since the only signal the fire station has is the amber flashing lights. As for the courthouse, the driveway off Hurontario between County Court and Ray Lawson has its own signalized intersection, so I'm less concerned about that. They'll be able to treat that area the way they treat regular intersections.

As for anything else, I'm less concerned about the provincial offences courthouse just S/B of Ray Lawson as there's an alternate driveway if anyone is trying to go N/B. The fire station doesn't have this choice unfortunately, they're going to need to leave a curb open for fire station with what I assume instead of using amber lights, use red white and blue lights to draw attention to traffic to stop both directions.

 

[drum118]

Part 1 of 5
April 5
More up on my site
With plans cancel for the day, try to see what I could of the corridor before the weather went real south.

All the trackwork is poured in place between Elm and CP with the topcoat still to be pour for the station.

The pile of rail that was stack at Fairview is now spread out in the guideway and it must mean they getting ready to splice them together so they can be place across Fairview intersection once it is dug up for the guideway either this month or in May. The fire vehicles will go south to the emergency turning pad to go north that will be a short time going to Joanne Dr or John St to go north.

Only two OS poles up between CP and Fairview with no Brackets or tension pulleys. All Trackwork 100% poured in Place South Of Fairview to John St with topcoat for the station. Looks like they are now planning to pour the concrete on both sides of the tracks now all the trackwork is in place.

As of 7pm April 09 until 5am April 10, northbound lanes close to all traffic from Hillcrest to CP with transit and traffic using Conference as the detour route. No idea what is taking place and a guessing game on my end. Could be for the removal of the hydro poles and wires on the east side now all the westside is done and live. If so, another closure will have to take place from CP to Burnhamorpe for the remainder of the hydro poles and wires.

Seems ward 7 councillor is upset with the looks of hydro wires in her ward with hydro removing temporary wires. Wonder what her and her residents going to say when the OS is installed in her ward by year end.

Talk about Burnhamorpe Station Area in part 5.

7 OS poles up with no backets and some tension pulleys between Burnhamorpe and Robert Speck.

 

[drum118]

Part 2 of 6
April 05
Was able to get a better location to shoot the guideway area from the ramp to the north end on Hurontario St. Not sure how or when they plan the east guideway curb so the base can be pour. It could be after traffic is shifted back to the original lanes once the guideway is built across it. All the base for the guideway is ready for the guideway to be built, Long shot of the ramp shows the guideway base has been poured for it and waiting track work.

The two OS poles between Kingsbridge and the plaza driveway now have tension pulleys on the but no brackets.