nfitz
Superstar
Not for the first hour or so of service in a day.
I'd guess that this will change when the line fully opens.
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I'd guess that this will change when the line fully opens.
GenerationLee
Senior Member
I didnt clarify...it was 18-20 minutes, but, yes, very frustrating. I know now to ignore using this transit line on weekend mornings if I open at my job.
nfitz
Superstar
Service currently starts a couple of hours earlier on Saturday mornings. It starts at 20-minute service, but goes to 14 minutes (departing Kennedy) at about 6:30 AM and about 7.5 minutes by 7 AM.I didnt clarify...it was 18-20 minutes, but, yes, very frustrating. I know now to ignore using this transit line on weekend mornings if I open at my job.
GenerationLee
Senior Member
I suppose my comment was directed more toward Sunday. But, in any case, the early night closures are more problematic from a capacity perspective along the entire route at the moment.
PL1
Senior Member
At Laird station just now, as commented by myself and others the Next Train info is not at all accurate. These two photos were taken a few seconds apart (train arriving and "5 min" at the same time)
zang
Senior Member
I wish you luck, but it's a good sign that they at least called you first. I've had them fail to show up, wherein I call to complain and rebook for the next day, only to have them not show up again.
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Chaplinurbex
New Member
I take this line almost every day and have never had issues with extensive waits for a train. Often the train arrives just as I hit the platform. At worst I've waited about 7 minutes.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
The drag factor of the surface section trickling into the tunnels no doubt.
RS1
New Member
I've had even better luck, never more than 5 minutes.
To be fair, I've only ridden the line about 10-15 times.
nfitz
Superstar
Full Metal Junkie
Senior Member
That was my biggest negative takeaway after riding Line 5. The announcement volume and the sound quality. In both cars we took, the speaker volume was so loud, it was actually vibrating the ceiling panels to the point of them creaking and buzzing against each other, adding to the overall unpleasantry of the whole announcement experience.
I was longing for the comeback of the quiet and soothing Seth Rogen voice announcements during the whole trip.
My second negative takeaway: the aisles are too narrow to fit a standard baby stroller, so whatever door you entered through with the stroller, you're stuck in that section of the car.
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urbanclient
Active Member
I believe you're talking about the aisle between the seats, not the gangway between the train modules:
Full Metal Junkie
Senior Member
Yes, corrected my original post
Amare
Senior Member
I think you all brought bad luck on me today, so I blame you all for. I joke, but more seriously:
There was a severe service disruption today between Mount Pleasant and Don Valley in the AM peak, which resulted in no service for a good 30-45 mins because of a switch problem. Good thing there were announcements to alert customers of the lack of service, and there was replacement bus service available.....oh wait for there was none of that!
In the PM peak, i saw what everyone was talking about with the inaccurate Next Vehicle Displays... it's bad. At Don Valley i waited a good 10-15 mins in the waiting for a westbound vehicle, even though the displays kept counting down to 5 mins, 3 mins, ici (rinse and repeat multiple times over with no vehicles arriving).
This P3 arrangement really is proving to be a big time cock up in many aspects. Simple things like announcing service disruptions, bad quality audio announcements, inaccurate next vehicle timing are all things that shouldnt be difficult to sort out. But yet somehow it is.
There was a severe service disruption today between Mount Pleasant and Don Valley in the AM peak, which resulted in no service for a good 30-45 mins because of a switch problem. Good thing there were announcements to alert customers of the lack of service, and there was replacement bus service available.....oh wait for there was none of that!
In the PM peak, i saw what everyone was talking about with the inaccurate Next Vehicle Displays... it's bad. At Don Valley i waited a good 10-15 mins in the waiting for a westbound vehicle, even though the displays kept counting down to 5 mins, 3 mins, ici (rinse and repeat multiple times over with no vehicles arriving).
This P3 arrangement really is proving to be a big time cock up in many aspects. Simple things like announcing service disruptions, bad quality audio announcements, inaccurate next vehicle timing are all things that shouldnt be difficult to sort out. But yet somehow it is.
urbanclient
Active Member
Considering it's a soft opening so far (with slower speeds and longer? headways), that may result in less people wanting to use it. Something something induced demand. I can see why someone would argue the opposite though.
Mainstream media has sporadically reported overcrowding, here is an example: "[...]there are still issues to be addressed, including accessibility, transit signal priority and overcrowding. 'It's quite crowded during peak hours especially. So one thing that we really hope that they start to move on is adding that third rail car,' he said."
Some people have made posts on Urban Toronto and elsewhere pointing out crush load / overcrowding well after opening day. I can't say it's extremely common, but the anecdotes do exist.
I would give it six months to a year before making a definitive judgement on any capacity-demand mismatch. Glass half-full, if capacity is adequate then good; if capacity is not adequate, then hopefully that will expedite procurement of the expanded fleet (and third car).
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