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cplchanb said:
Considering that the livery was introduced in the early 2010s, 15 years to bring trains up to shape is an incredulously low bar to set. If theyre going to take that long just to repaint.
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Just a few messages up someone explained to you why it’s been a drawn out process. Coaches up until this point have only been repainted after undergoing a full refurbishment.

I try not be to be snarky on UrbanToronto but please, don’t say anything if you aren’t reading the thread

I suppose it's time to grant a Statute of Limitations for ML branding. When ML announced its change of livery in 2017, then-premier Wynne promised that the new branding would be phased in only when needed, and there would be no wasteful repainting of the fleet ahead of actual need.

That's one of the few promises that anyone connected with ML or government management of transit has kept - for almost a full decade now.
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generalcanada said:

this is so weird, why would they lie about that. they didnt like the idea that other countries produce better cars than us? at a cheaper price?

Also the reference to go Expansion trains too. The rumored electric locos that have been scrapped?
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This Doug Ford government is almost as corrupt as Daniel Smith.
 
Considering how awful the Alstom Citadis Spirits have been, and they're manufactured in Brampton, I'm not entirley against this.

I want to support Canadian made trains, but not if they're of poor quality.

Hopefully the Mark V SkyTrains in Vancouver hold up well. I believe those were manufactured in Quebec. IIRC the REM trains in Montreal are majority manufactured in India. Perhaps assembled in Quebec?

Where do they still manufacture heavy rail locomotives in Canada?

My guess is the Province is going to talk to Wabtec about supplying GO with new locomtovies, and they'll be built entirley in Erie, Pennsylvania.
 
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Bojaxs said:
Considering how awful the Alstom Citadis Spirits have been, and they're manufactured in Brampton, I'm not entirley against this.

I want to support Canadian made trains, but not if they're of poor quality.

Hopefully the Mark V SkyTrains in Vancouver hold up well. I believe those were made in Quebe. IIRC the REM trains in Montreal are majority manufactured in India. Perhaps assembled in Quebec?

Where do they still manufacture heavy rail locomotives in Canada?

My guess is the Province is going to talk to Wabtec about supplying GO with new locomtovies, and they'll be built entirley in Erie, Pennsylvania.
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Bombardier (Alstom) has dual modes.

For the Citidas problems. It's not about where they are made. It's about the design.
 
Bordercollie said:
Bombardier (Alstom) has dual modes.

For the Citidas problems. It's not about where they are made. It's about the design.
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Who knows how the sky train will perform here. Remember they are based on srt architecture which had lots of issues in the canadian winter
 
Maybe whomever is designing can take the bilevel design and make power cars out of them to finally get that dmu train going like it was originally envisioned by hawker siddley. Then again its a fantasy.....
 
Bojaxs said:
Where do they still manufacture heavy rail locomotives in Canada?

My guess is the Province is going to talk to Wabtec about supplying GO with new locomtovies, and they'll be built entirley in Erie, Pennsylvania.
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I don’t think there are any plants who would still build new locomotives in Canada with the closure of the EMD plant in London back in 2012. Could Alstom build either Wabtec or EMD locomotives under licence or as a subcontractor in the Thunder Bay plant?

I suppose GO can still get some F59PHIs from SPTX or Metra of Chicago?
 
CMQSD402F9011 said:
I don’t think there are any plants who would still build new locomotives in Canada with the closure of the EMD plant in London back in 2012. Could Alstom build either Wabtec or EMD locomotives under licence or as a subcontractor in the Thunder Bay plant?

I suppose GO can still get some F59PHIs from SPTX or Metra of Chicago?
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Screw buying leftovers from the yanks. Either buy new or we develop our own rolling stock. Maybe import an Alstom loco from Europe to be certified here
 
There was that little teaser from Alstom a couple of years ago showing a render of a possible locomotive for GO Transit.
 
Alstom made a preliminary electric locomotive design for metrolinx a few years ago, it was very angular. Didn’t really look like the drawing shown in that video
 
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