Amare
Senior Member
Again as i've mentioned, in this particular incident during the mid day, it was a mechanical issue with an LRV.
The TTC's email and number is available for those that want to cross-examine.
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Finch West Line 6 LRT
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The TTC's email and number is available for those that want to cross-examine.
nottoban
New Member
Alstom has a practical incentive to keep a potential Metrolinx–Mosaic dispute from escalating into a public legal fight with the need to remove or replace the Citadis vehicles this early in their service life. Even if Alstom is not the claimant, this would call Alstom’s ability to deliver vehicles that are fit for purpose into question, which would *not* be a good look, even if they've got the market cornered (although I continue to cling to the hope that eventually too many issues like this will lead to Canadian content rules being loosened, which is probably overly optimistic).
For Mosaic, an argument that Metrolinx’s vehicle selection made contractual performance unattainable is difficult unless Mosaic can demonstrate they undertook reasonable mitigation and sustained, good-faith efforts to make the service operate within the constraints of the existing system. The is mportant because performance penalties and reputational damage will keep piling up during any potential litigation. Even if Mosaic recovered some compensation, it may not mean much if penalties persist and their reputation continues to take a hit.
turbanplanner
Senior Member
I'm hoping in a few months they'll add the delay reasons to the opendata portal, like they do for the streetcars and subways.
Steve munroe might have a future writeup!
Bordercollie
Senior Member
So for Hamilton LRT, they could piggy back on the cross town West order and go with Flexity's?
Chris R.
Senior Member
I'm really hoping we avoid any vehicles that have issues, but it's Hamilton and we only deserve the very worst, so don't worry, they'll be broken day 1.
Amare
Senior Member
There is no Crosstown West order, Metrolinx has not procured anything for that extension yet.
jmi22
Active Member
Thank you so much to our bike-riding, transit advocating Mayor!Based on this report, it looks like the with TSP the trains will still be stopped by red lights.
"However, the city has not indicated any plans to implement red light truncation as part of TSP changes."
How will Traffic Signal Priority for LRTs impact your drive?
With LRT vehicles set to get priority at intersections along both Finch and Eglinton, will drivers be left in the dust as trains speed by?toronto.citynews.ca
mikey7767
New Member
Yeah, but buses also run frequently on perpendicular routes such as Victoria Park, Warden, Birchmount, and traffic also needs to get through. The best thing would have been to build this thing underground or elevated since most of it was done like that already, we could have even automated the entire operation of it to save operational costs, but no, why use common sense.
FW36
Active Member
The Finch West lrt should have been built with stations that were grade separated at major intersections such as Albion, Kipling, Islington, Weston, Jane. The curve between Humber college station and Westmore should have been built with a more gentle curve allowing for faster speeds, plus removing stations at Stevenson, Duncanwoods, Driftwood to allow for better spacing. All those changes would probably allow the line to run smoother and feel more like a light metro. The whole line feels like it was designed without the end user in mind. Its a mess.
jmi22
Active Member
Somehow every other city on planet earth that runs trams with signal priority have figured this out. This is unashamed, rank incompetence and political cowardice in an election year, don't let them misled you into thinking this is a "technical" matter.
Agree it should have been 100% grade separated from day 1.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The maximum curve radius for the Flexity Freedom light rail vehicle is 26m. The maximum curve radius for the Citadis Spirit light rail vehicle is 25m. In theory, on paper.
Tightest TTC streetcar curve is 11.3m. The Flexity Outlook streetcars are "designed" for a minimum radius of 10.973 metres.
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turbanplanner
Senior Member
This is a city that BOUGHT a self driving system (line 3) and then messed it up by adding human drivers
T3G
Senior Member
That was smart of them to do. If we automate everything, how will people make a living?
It wasn't the presence of the drivers that messed the system up. It was unsuitable for the weather conditions we have here.
turbanplanner
Senior Member
Having drivers lead to flat spots on the wheels. I think the upsides of millions of people get to work on time outweighs a few hundred jobs.
Look at how hard it is to make schedules changes for the TTC or MX? You have to wait for a new board period to make any service improvements. The Skytrain is 1000x more consistent than any TTC service, especially on weekends or late hours.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The "drivers" were there for security and information.