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Every now and then I remember I have a degree in Structural Engineering. So here's my thoughts:

For them to VE out the diagonal lines they'd need to redesign the entire building. Those are structural. This building is built like 1 Bloor West. Except the diagonals are inside the glass instead of on the outside. (The argument they should have put them on the outside remains valid, it would certainly have reduced the glass box look). The main columns are the primary structural elements and everything else is supported by the diagonal members coming off of them. The one render not showing them beyond the lower levels doesn't mean anything. It's just lighting on the render. Also why would they only keep that design for a few floors and then stop. It makes no sense.

Yes they could entirely redesign the building, but is that going to be cheaper than building what has been already designed? Idk. I'm just saying that looking at one rendering from LinkedIn (of all places) is probably not an accurate source for structural engineering changes.
 
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TossYourJacket said:
Every now and then I remember I have a degree in Structural Engineering. So here's my thoughts:

For them to VE out the diagonal lines they'd need to redesign the entire building. Those are structural. This building is built like 1 Bloor West. Except the diagonals are inside the glass instead of on the outside. (The argument they should have put them on the outside remains valid, it would certainly have reduced the glass box look). The main columns are the primary structural elements and everything else is supported by the diagonal members coming off of them. The one render not showing them beyond the lower levels doesn't mean anything. It's just lighting on the render. Also why would they only keep that design for a few floors and then stop. It makes no sense.

Yes they could entirely redesign the building, but is that going to be cheaper than building what has been already designed? Idk. I'm just saying that looking at one rendering from LinkedIn (of all places) is probably not an accurate source for structural engineering changes.
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Exactly what I was thinking too. Given the column-less situation at grade, there's no other way to transfer loads into the super columns so it's not just something Oxford could just do away with (like RSHP's signature use of vibrant primary colours, ugh...). It's just bad lighting in the LinkedIn render, doubtless because some gormless dipshit at Oxford just fed the original image into the robot overlord and it spat this garbage out.
 
I still say a brand-new office for National Bank Financial, or a consolidated BMO operations from around the GTA, outside of its First Canadian Place operations, into this building as the lead tenant, would be great, adding their logo to their box at the top by the spire.
 
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