Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[6ixGod]

Additional thoughts thus far:

Stations are quite chilly this AM, I understand why that water pipe burst at Mt Dennis earlier in the week. It must be below freezing at platform level and around -12c in the main station level.

Lots of upgrades to the waypoint finding at the stations, worth bumping that other thread on the topic.

The trains are tiny relative to the platform width. I think it is going to be awkward with people waiting at the platform ends and then running towards the middle of the platform when the train arrives. It has me slightly concerned that day 1 capacity is a bit low relative to Eglinton’s passenger demands, at least until they add extra cars. It is reminiscent of Sheppard Line which also has fewer cars and longer headways, creating illusion of being at-capacity.

The Flexity Freedom vehicles are also so much nicer than the Alstom vehicles used on Finch.

Sheppard isn’t underused , it is underbuilt.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Well it only took an hour for there to be an intrusion at track level

Edit: I think the announcement is just broken

 

[81-717]

As you have said, as long they can check for fare anywhere within the paid area

My point is that this tactic should be scrapped, and they should instead check at entry points.

 

[GenerationLee]

Nobody was ever taking buses from Mount Dennis to Kennedy, the ACTUAL comparison has always been against using Line 2 + bus/GO or UP Express. The fastest of these combos comes in at 45 minutes (UPX+Line 2).
So for 15 years and enough money to fill Lake Ontario we got a line that will run about 20% slower than existing services end-to-end.

You do understand this is the first ohase of the opening, and it'll be slow while they get things in order (and turn on more enhanced versions of TSP, which for whstever reason they couldnt just do before the training of drivers started)

I can see this running sub 45 minutes by summer end to end, and that will be a glorious day.

I hear the line is already down...so, I will not be riding it I guess!

EDIT: Maybe not??
Well, lets see.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

You do understand this is the first phase of the opening, and it'll be slow while they get things in order (and turn on more enhanced versions of TSP, which for whatever reason they couldnt just do before the training of drivers started)

I can see this running sub 45 minutes by summer end to end, and that will be a glorious day.

I hear the line is already down...so, I will not be riding it I guess!

Was just a 2 minute delay because someone jammed the doors on a westbound train at O'Connor Station.

 

[lastcommodore]

I can see this running sub 45 minutes by summer end to end, and that will be a glorious day.

Agreed, drivers are cautious in tunnel and no TSP. Sub 45 is 100% achievable.

 

[ARG1]

Additional thoughts thus far:

Stations are quite chilly this AM, I understand why that water pipe burst at Mt Dennis earlier in the week. It must be below freezing at platform level and around -12c in the main station level.

Lots of upgrades to the waypoint finding at the stations, worth bumping that other thread on the topic.

The trains are tiny relative to the platform width. I think it is going to be awkward with people waiting at the platform ends and then running towards the middle of the platform when the train arrives. It has me slightly concerned that day 1 capacity is a bit low relative to Eglinton’s passenger demands, at least until they add extra cars. It is reminiscent of Sheppard Line which also has fewer cars and longer headways, creating illusion of being at-capacity.

The Flexity Freedom vehicles are also so much nicer than the Alstom vehicles used on Finch.

I was there at 5:30, there wasn't even a hint of heat leaving the doors. There simply isn't any heating at the concourse level at either Kennedy or Mount Dennis.

 

[Northern Light]

First train going eastbound….reaches the non-underground section.

Literally everyone in the train in complaining on the live stream

Observation: Train got caught by almost every red light possible.

A few seemed to cycle quickly, but a few, delayed the train by a full light cycle, only to have it stop on the far side (Bermondsey as example).

 

[ARG1]

The first train leaving Mt Dennis took 27m from SC to Kennedy, we arrived at Kennedy exactly 1h after leaving Mt. Dennis, meaning that the surface section (including SP) takes up half the runtime of the line. We stopped at 7 red lights, and were lucky enough to skip a few red lights such as at Leslie and Sloane (although we did slow down significantly). Whilst I can't say this line has exceeded expectations, it has thoroughly met them. This is pretty much exactly what I imaged the line would feel like when I joined the forum back in 2020. Overall 6.5/10, if we can get stronger signal priority I'll bump it up to a 7. This score doesn't factor the experience at transferring at Eglinton/Cedarvale, but somehow I doubt it would move the scale much.

 

[dougtoronto]

I think the city is going to have no choice but to either go all in with full signal priority, or split the line into two sections. The difference in service between both parts (under and above ground) is abysmal.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Observation: Train got caught by almost every red light possible.

A few seemed to cycle quickly, but a few, delayed the train by a full light cycle, only to have it stop on the far side (Bermondsey as example).

Waiting for a train in the underground portion heading westbound and I am just watching the ticker for the next train grow in minutes instead of decline.

I’m guessing the delay is the surface portion stuck behind red lights. Sigh.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

Observation: Train got caught by almost every red light possible.

A few seemed to cycle quickly, but a few, delayed the train by a full light cycle, only to have it stop on the far side (Bermondsey as example).

Some of the lights were upgraded to truncate reds/extend greens recently with the more aggressive cycle rotation TSP coming in May (that part requires much more extensive changes to programming of the signal controllers). From my understanding the rest of the lights on the surface section will get the red truncation/green extension update by the end of the month.

 

[hawc]

Got lots of pictures and videos to come, but I will say I paced the train in my car in a few times from Leslie to Don Mills and it maxes out at 47 km/h. Never paced it faster than that.

 

[ARG1]

Got lots of pictures and videos to come, but I will say I paced the train in my car in a few times from Leslie to Don Mills and it maxes out at 47 km/h. Never paced it faster than that.

56 between Sloane and Wynford. Top speeds are... Reasonable unlike launch Finch West. Obviously it could and should be a lot higher.

 

[lastcommodore]

Elevators are good but confusing. Mt dennis is super messy.
Should be written on the buttons the destination. Had to help some people

Tldr mt dennis is a whole beast w numbering but most stns are 1/2/3 street concourse track lvl.