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Apologies if this has been previously posted, this is a busy thread!

But a user, maxcentury, on Reddit posted updated signage at Cedarvale Station which includes the span of service (start to end times each day) for the Crosstown.

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I trust this is for a soft opening only as that is a very early closure.
 
Northern Light said:
Apologies if this has been previously posted, this is a busy thread!

But a user, maxcentury, on Reddit posted updated signage at Cedarvale Station which includes the span of service (start to end times each day) for the Crosstown.

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I trust this is for a soft opening only as that is a very early closure.
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Looks like trains are not stored across the line, or at least at Kennedy. The first departure eastbound from Mount Dennis should be around 5:30 (Mon-Sat). That train goes to Kennedy and comes back to do the first wetbound trip at 7:11.
The reverse for the last trains. The 10pm eastbound train has to return to Mount Dennis.
 
Northern Light said:
I trust this is for a soft opening only as that is a very early closure.
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I agree, and it's also a late opening IMO. Many stores are open at 7 AM, and in one direction, employees would not be able to use the line to get to work.
A few years ago, there were signs in the window at Don Valley station saying it would be open 24 hours, and I jumped to the conclusion that meant the trains would run 24 hours. Now I presume they mean the public can enter the station 24 hours to access bus platforms, but not the train. I guess it threw me because that's not how subway stations work. When the subway closes, so do the stations, and buses only stop on the street without entering the station.
When I was a kid in the 1970s, I lived near a streetcar line that ran all day and night. And I remember when the Blue Night service came in, bringing night service to all of Toronto, instead of just downtown, it seemed to be a big step forward. I've always thought the subways would eventually run 24 hours, and am disappointed that there is never any talk of that happening, even though other cities do it. I don't know how many streetcar lines run all night at the present time, but assuming some or all do so, why not subways and LRTs as well.
 
FWIW, SkyTrain service on Sundays begins at different times based on line and location.

Expo Line
First train (earliest segment): 7:06 am
First train (entire line): 7:44 am

Millennium Line
First train: 7:30 am

Canada Line
First train (earliest segment - Downtown to the airport): 4:48 am
First train (entire line): 5:33 am

Edit: credit where it's due, for rapid transit serving an airport, the Canada Line has fantastic operating hours, including weekends. Can you take the train from downtown to catch a 6am flight? No, not likely. But you sure could for a 7am flight. The last train to downtown leaves YVR at 12:54 am, too. And these first train/last train schedules are the same 7 days a week. The UP Express schedule is even better, too.
 
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Now I presume they mean the public can enter the station 24 hours to access bus platforms, but not the train. I guess it threw me because that's not how subway stations work.
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It is how some subway stations work.

Spadina, Union, and Queen's Quay are all open 24/7 due to the overnight streetcar service. With Spadina, they do lock most of the station entrances overnight: you can only enter through the door on the bus platforms.

I'm surprised to learn that they're doing the same with Don Valley, though.
 
That sign also reveals the round trip time between Cedervale and Kennedy is about 90 minutes including a layover at Kennedy. So probably around 40 minutes one way.
 
IRT_BMT_IND said:
That sign also reveals the round trip time between Cedervale and Kennedy is about 90 minutes including a layover at Kennedy. So probably around 40 minutes one way.
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McGillicuddy said:
Well that can't be right. This forum promised me it would be at least 4 years.
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I will celebrate if I am wrong. But the numbers being inferred here are not the same ones as were stated in the Dec 10 TTC Board meeting.
 
urbanclient said:
I will celebrate if I am wrong. But the numbers being inferred here are not the same ones as were stated in the Dec 10 TTC Board meeting.
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Idk where the other poster is coming from, its definitely more than 40 mins per direction. Looking at the difference between the 7:10am and 5:40am start times? But that's doesn't explain anything as that is start time from different ends, not a round trip. Both public info (the Board meeting you cited) and other sources point to a 55ish min travel time per direction.
 
duffo said:
Idk where the other poster is coming from, its definitely more than 40 mins per direction. Looking at the difference between the 7:10am and 5:40am start times? But that's doesn't explain anything as that is start time from different ends, not a round trip. Both public info (the Board meeting you cited) and other sources point to a 55ish min travel time per direction.
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10-15 minutes from Mount Dennis to Cedervale and 40-45 minutes from there to Kennedy would fit. This is also assuming the first eastbound train turns at Kennedy to become the first westbound.
 
IRT_BMT_IND said:
That sign also reveals the round trip time between Cedervale and Kennedy is about 90 minutes including a layover at Kennedy. So probably around 40 minutes one way.
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40 minutes for 19 km is 28.5 km/h. That's faster than Line 1 and 2 in practice because of persistent slow-zones and other delays. Knowing what we know about Line 6 and TTC operations, does that speed make sense for a line with a manually operated ~8 km eastern surface section with 14 traffic lights? The copium is strong here. And still I hope by some miracle you're right about 40 minutes, I am just being realistic here.
 
IRT_BMT_IND said:
10-15 minutes from Mount Dennis to Cedervale and 40-45 minutes from there to Kennedy would fit. This is also assuming the first eastbound train turns at Kennedy to become the first westbound.
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Yeah reading this again (realizing its specific to Cedarvale). The original poster is prob somewhat accurate. Here's an example assuming a 115 min RTTT.
5:28am-5:43am: Mount Dennis to Cedarvale (15 mins)
5:43am-6:25am: Cedarvale to Kennedy (42 mins)
6:25am-6:29am: Layover at Kennedy (4 mins)
6:29am-7:11am: Kennedy to Cedarvale (42 mins)
7:10am-7:24am: Cedarvale to Mount Dennis (14 mins)
 
urbanclient said:
40 minutes for 19 km is 28.5 km/h. That's faster than Line 1 and 2 in practice because of persistent slow-zones and other delays. Knowing what we know about Line 6 and TTC operations, does that speed make sense for a line with a manually operated ~8 km eastern surface section with 14 traffic lights? The copium is strong here. And still I hope by some miracle you're right about 40 minutes, I am just being realistic here.
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He is saying from Cedarvale to Kennedy, not Mount Dennis. So about 14.5km = 22km/h.
 
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