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Russian-Ukrainian War (2022- )

What do you think will happen if we put missles in Ukraine,

Absolutely nothing. Ukrainian drones are literally hitting Moscow. Where's the mushroom cloud over Kyiv? What's he going to do? Escalate to nuclear war that destroys Ruzzia too? Hell, every rich Ruzzian keeps their kids, wives and mistress in the very European cities they talk about nuking.

You seem to forget that the Brits and the French have enough nukes to wipe out everything in Ruzzia that actually matters several times over. And unlike Putin's cronies, they actually make sure theirs works.

I'll say this. It has never been about NATO. It's always been about the EU. Ruzzia faces economic isolation with it's entire former European sphere joining the EU. Putin didn't flinch when Sweden and Finland joined NATO, doubled the NATO border with Russia, and turned the Baltic Sea into a NATO Lake. But Ukraine starts talking about joining the EU and they get a full invasion.

Today he comes for Ukraine. Tomorrow, he demands the Baltics and Scandiaa quit NATO and the EU or risk nukes. You'll throw them under the bus too?

I sincerely wish Hungary wasn't in NATO and the EU. I bet you'd have a very different opinion if your motherland wasn't protected.
 
I sincerely wish Hungary wasn't in NATO and the EU. I bet you'd have a very different opinion if your motherland wasn't protected.

I actually have family in the Hungarian Armed Forces and I am proud of the work they do.

Just wait until April when they have their elections, there is a growing desire for change and recent polls indicate Orban will be ousted. Trust me, I want that buffoon gone more than anyone.
 
I actually have family in the Hungarian Armed Forces and I am proud of the work they do.

Just wait until April when they have their elections, there is a growing desire for change and recent polls indicate Orban will be ousted. Trust me, I want that buffoon gone more than anyone.

Why? You don't seem to have much of an opinion difference than Orban. Though, you're a lot more gullible. I'm going to bet that Viktor isn't being chicken little about Ruzzian nukes.
 
Also, just a reminder. This conversation started with. "We should abandon Ukraine cause we have poor people here."

And in a handful of posts we've moved on to "Russia will nuke us all and we'll have WWIII."

Anything to push the Putin POV.
 
Why? You don't seem to have much of an opinion difference than Orban. Though, you're a lot more gullible. I'm going to bet that Viktor isn't being chicken little about Ruzzian nukes.

Hungary is much better off being closer to the EU than it is to Russia.

I have been going there since 1996 and I have seen both sides of the spectrum. I saw when it was pullng itself out of Communism, when it joined the EU and now when that jackass ruined it.

They were doing much better in the 90s and early 2000s when they joined NATO and the EU. They were getting closer to Europe and truly becoming integrated.

Unfortunately, the PM was a complete tool and got caught on tape lying in 2008. That scandal damn near led to the government being forcibly overthrown by protestors who were seconds away from breaking down the doors of the parliament building.

When that whole situation happened, the socialist opposition collapsed and Orban picked up the pieces. He then jury rigged the system to keep winning.

I personally detest Orban and would love to see a return to the left leaning politics from years ago.
 
The selfishness is truly amazing to behold. You can recognize the corruption and damage it did to Hungary. But you would happily throw Ukraine under the bus to the same. Disgusting.

I stand by what I said. Hungarians, Slovaks and Czechs deserve the very same fate they would wish on Ukrainians.
 
Hungarians, Slovaks and Czechs deserve the very same fate they would wish on Ukrainians.
The populations of those 3 nations should be slaughtered because their politicians don't support Ukraine? How does thinking this make you a better person than Putin? Once you start holding regular people accountable for every wrong thing their leadership does or thinks, there is no end to the atrocities you can justify.

Signed, a Slovak who does NOT support Russia
 
The populations of those 3 nations should be slaughtered because their politicians don't support Ukraine? How does thinking this make you a better person than Putin? Once you start holding regular people accountable for every wrong thing their leadership does or thinks, there is no end to the atrocities you can justify.

Signed, a Slovak who does NOT support Russia

Read what I said carefully. They should get the exact same protection, they think Ukraine should get. They seem to have all forgotten why their countries were clamouring to get into the EU and NATO in the 90s. As seen by Richard's posts here. Maybe they need a reminder.
 
Russia has suffered stunning geopolitical defeats in the first week of January with Maduro capture followed by US Navy SEALs storming and capturing a Russian shadow fleet oil tanker as Russian Navy stood idly by and did nothing. And to add insult to injury, now Iran is on the brink of collapse.

Not surprisingly, Putin wants to remind the world about how great and powerful Mother Russia is (his opinion, not mine).

So here comes the nuclear saber rattling:



What you are seeing is the Ukrainian city of Lviv being "bombed" by an Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) "Oreshnik". Each one of the streaks is a Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) falling from space at 13,000 km/h. Each one of those MIRVs could have been a nuclear warhead, released from a single ballistic missile. These were clearly not nuclear. In fact, there are no explosions whatsoever, so these were dummy concrete warheads usually used for testing.

Don't let the media coverage of this event scare you into thinking we are on the brink of a nuclear war. This is simply a sad man from Kremlin with a tiny penis showing off his big rocket. Nothing more. He's done it before. And when he has no other cards to play, he'll do it again. Nuclear scaremongering has always been Russia's last resort argument, but there's never anything to it.
 
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The dichotomy of war.

On one hand the Russian army is reduced to this:

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On the other hand, the Russian air force is coming out of the Ukraine war with a larger, more modern fleet and much more experienced pilots, which is a substantial threat to the rest of us:


This should give you a clue why the RCAF is so insistent on the F-35.
 
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On the other hand, the Russian air force is coming out of the Ukraine war with a larger, more modern fleet and much more experienced pilots, which is a substantial threat to the rest of us:
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This should give you a clue why the RCAF is so insistent on the F-35.

Great analysis from RUSI, as usual. My take on it, as a report from a Western military think tank made for consumption by Western militaries, it has a clear message in mind: don't fall into the trap of underestimating your enemy.

And while I agree with the importance of that sort of messaging, I would still argue that Russian Aerospace Force (VKS) is still not a significant threat to NATO. In other words, I agree that VKS is no longer the paper tiger it was back in 2022, but it is still not a real tiger either. As of 2026, it is a cardboard tiger.

Without actually disagreeing with anything in RUSI report, here are some of my thoughts in addition.

1. VKS is incapable of penetration operations into contested airspace.
- The last penetration operation Russia has conducted into the Ukrainian territory was 2 weeks into the war. They were losing multiple aircraft daily to Soviet-era mid- and long-range air defense systems. They would then send a helicopter to rescue every single pilot ejected behind enemy lines. They were losing plenty of helicopters that way to Cold War era MANPADS (US-supplied Stingers and Soviet stockpiles of Strela and Igla missiles).
- Su-57 was supposed to be the enabler for the VKS to conduct penetration missions. It is the only manned Russian aircraft that is supposed to have low radar visibility. However, there have always been rumors that it is not actually stealth. As in, while it has lower radar cross-section than a regular aircraft, it is still not enough to functionally evade radar and missile lock-on at any meaningfully reduced ranges. The fact that VKS has 20 of these so called "stealth" aircraft but is yet to even try to use them in combat says all you need to know. If they were capable stealth aircraft, they would be flying penetrating missions, going after and systematically degrading Ukrainian air defenses, establishing local air superiority zones to allow 4th gen aircraft to come in. The fact that they're not doing any of that is a clear sign that Su-57 is not a 5th gen aircraft Putin's PR team claims it to be. It's a pretender.
- To add insult to injury on the Su-57 front, what RUSI report conveniently omits is the fact that all 20 Su-57 were delivered to the VKS prior to 2025. There have been exactly zero Su-57 deliveries for a year now.

2. Russian glide bomb threat is real, but it can be countered.
- Russian unpowered glide bombs of meaningful sizes have the range of 70 km from the point of release. They are currently experimenting with propulsion-assisted glide bombs to extend their range to 100-120 km, but that experiment is far from being widely adopted.
- PATRIOT PAC-2 has an estimated range of 100-160 km. Forward deployment of Patriots should achieve enough of a standoff range to negate the threat of the Russian glide bombs.
- In fact, Ukraine has already successfully demonstrated this in 2023 when they received their first Patriots. They seem to have dedicated a single Patriot battery for forward deployment in the summer of 2023. They were setting up ambushes in various spots along the frontline, shooting down Su-34s on glide bomb missions over occupied territories. They even shot down 4 aircraft in one volley over the Russian Bryansk region. Unfortunately, their opsec was not the best, so after a few months Russia tracked them down and destroyed them with an Iskander missile strike. And because Ukraine needs Patriots to defend their cities and military airfields, they have not used the tactic since.

3. NATO forces have the capability to establish air supremacy (in time).
- VKS was incapable or breaking trough the antiquated soviet air defenses Ukraine had in 2022. They are going to be completely incapable of breaking through NATO's modern integrated air defenses.
- NATO has assets to slowly degrade Russian air defenses. F-22s, F-35s, and B2s can fly penetration missions and over time destroy enough aircraft and air defenses so that 4th gen aircraft can come in.


So yes, if Canada wants to participate in the penetration missions against Russia, that's when F-35s will come in handy for RAF. And when we will need to have a standoff capability in the arctic against China, F-35s will be a must. F-35s will be absolutely useless against any possible conflict with the US (them being able to flip a software kill-switch on any F-35 at any time they'd like). So while I do like the idea of having some F-35s in RAF, I also wouldn't mind having some Grippens too (or any other advanced 4th gen multi-role aircraft).
 
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