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...what's worse is those dogs at the Bersky fountain where cast in Tennessee, to my understanding. 🙀

(I just want to point out that our beef really isn't with Americans either, rather with Trump and his supporters/enablers. But that's probably going off-topical at this point. >.< )
 
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rdaner said:
^And it’s ’Elbows Up’ against MAGA/Trump, not the World in general! 😂🌎🍁🇨🇦
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If your attention span is so limited that you think the US only started behaving this way when Trump came into power, idk what to tell you.

Elbows up crowd when the US bombs, invades, and terrorizes for decades: Nothing

Elbows up crowd when Trump says something stupid: BOYCOTT!

I agree that elbows up shouldn't be against the world, and sourcing this cladding from Italy is fine, but it should be against the US, regardless of Trump.
 
DtTO said:
If your attention span is so limited that you think the US only started behaving this way when Trump came into power, idk what to tell you.

Elbows up crowd when the US bombs, invades, and terrorizes for decades: Nothing

Elbows up crowd when Trump says something stupid: BOYCOTT!

I agree that elbows up shouldn't be against the world, and sourcing this cladding from Italy is fine, but it should be against the US, regardless of Trump.
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As a born and raised Texan, and currently still livin' in Texas, I hate the orange dirtbag entirely. And I know 'hate' is a strong word, but I really don't like this guy. Shoot, we really gettin tired of him down here, too, lol, but I'm with y'all all the way! ELBOWS UP!!!
 
travis3000 said:
This should end the nonsense discussions how the second tower will never be built. It's coming. Just a few years behind schedule. These towers will be architectural masterpieces, the final project by a world famous artist who is now deceased. The second tower is his last vision and will be his tallest building ever. Buyers will see value in that, and I imagine they won't have a problem selling it. Worst case, they can always allocate 20 floors of the building to a hotel and do residential for the other part.
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Imagine if the height increases were approved back in the day, two Gehry supertalls side-by-side, though even without the height increase both towers will be his first and second tallest. I also think the West tower included a hotel portion which was axed, perhaps that'll make a comeback in the future.
 
daptive said:
Imagine if the height increases were approved back in the day, two Gehry supertalls side-by-side, though even without the height increase both towers will be his first and second tallest. I also think the West tower included a hotel portion which was axed, perhaps that'll make a comeback in the future.
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8 Spruce is 265m to the roof. Forma's East Tower is going to be 262.8m to the roof, so it will be Gehry's second tallest when complete.

I hope the West Tower is rethought, contents-wise. The replacement of office space with bent-bowling-alley layouts in the podium in 2025 was a shock to me, I simply do not understand how anyone in 2025's condo market could think that even more suites would improve that building's chances of rising someday. I am with those who think that a hotel in the podium levels makes far more sense, and then rejigging the tower floors with larger, far better laid out suites is the way to go here: current layouts have clueless pre-bust investor written all over them. I'm not a developer, though, so happy to be schooled if I'm wrong, but one of my eyebrows will be raised for an extended stretch through any attempt to explain it to me otherwise.

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