GO Transit: Construction Projects (Metrolinx, various)

[KhalilHeron]

Not to make this into a game of oppression Olympics, but Scarborough has waaaay better transit than any other suburb of the GTA. Even Etobicoke has far poorer transit than Scarborough does.

That's not to say that there isn't room for improvement in Scarborough, but some perspective would be nice.

Etobicoke already has more rail stations per capita and will have way better rail coverage and a lot more stations per capita when all extensions are complete and thats not even considering the streetcar or surface sections of line 5 and 6. Bus service in scarborough is certainly better than etobicoke though but thats gonna be a lot less relevant when etobicoke has 2 new lrt lines

 

[Northern Light]

Ok..... pretty please can we move past this weird tangent about whose area is more deprived of service or investment? Its non-constructive and has nothing to do with ongoing or future investments which is the subject of this thread.

 

[Fervid Corona]

Doubt it is for anything related to the recent announcement but there was 2 pieces of CN equipment parked on the track that leads into the current south lot tunnel construction area at Bramalea yesterday. Not great quality as I was rushing to catch the train.

Bonus crappy picture of the work going on at the location of the future(?) King–Liberty GO Station.

 

[Undead]

Does he turn CN track into Metrolinx?

 

[ProjectEnd]

This is just not a thing that is happening.

 

[innsertnamehere]

What is the hold up on the bridge - does anyone know? It's like 3+ years behind schedule at this point.

 

[nfitz]

What is the hold up on the bridge - does anyone know? It's like 3+ years behind schedule at this point.

Which bridge is that?

 

[crs1026]

Which bridge is that?

The bridge that isn’t : West Highland Creek under the ML Stouffville line, also under the CPKC overpass, in Agincourt.
ML doubletracked the Stouffville line from here north to Underwood, but cancelled the bridge…. Leaving a gap in the new second track….. for at least five years now. That’s a couple hundred million dollars of track and station construction that has never been used because the bridge is missing.
The interesting detail in those images is the added pilings protecting the CPKC bridge.

- Paul

 

[smallspy]

What is the hold up on the bridge - does anyone know? It's like 3+ years behind schedule at this point.

The work being done was affecting the CPKC bridge overhead.

It is expected that it may take another 4 or 5 years in order to engineer a solution to it.

Dan

 

[Metroscapes]

The work being done was affecting the CPKC bridge overhead.

It is expected that it may take another 4 or 5 years in order to engineer a solution to it.

Dan

A transit project is delayed cause CPKC's bridge is a POS. Got it.

If Alto is slated to go through here, perhaps that's an opportunity to fix it up.

 

[crs1026]

A transit project is delayed cause CPKC's bridge is a POS. Got it.

If Alto is slated to go through here, perhaps that's an opportunity to fix it up.

Considering that the CPKC bridge was there all along, one wonders how that got missed in the engineering. Or is CPKC angling for a better one. Or is everyone just waiting for Alto to fund it.

4-5 years is long enough to justify macguyvering a temporary control point or gantlet solution to the signalling, just north of the non-bridge - and get all that double track in service.

- Paul

 

[Bojaxs]

The work being done was affecting the CPKC bridge overhead.

It is expected that it may take another 4 or 5 years in order to engineer a solution to it.

Dan

So even with the lines that Metrolinx/ GO own, they're still at the mercy of the freight companies.

And people on here wondering why GO still hasn't been electrified. GO's main objective right now should be to sort out all points of conflict with the freight companies and work towards completely segregating passenger rail from freight rail.

If they decide to build a new bridge for CPKC, I hope they design it to allow 3 tracks to run underneath it.

 

[dowlingm]

For goodness sake off we go again. Yes it's a CPKC bridge. But the issues would be similar if it was a road bridge, or a subway bridge. There is a river right there! This was never a low degree of difficulty project, just that they thought it was low enough to get away with it.

The CPR track goes from 4 tracks to 3 tracks to 2 just before that bridge. My guess is the best approach here would be to build a set of abutments on the north side (and reinforcement of the present embankment), construct a wider two track bridge, reconfigure/slew the tracks to use that, and then demolish the existing, and leave it to Alto to pay for a replacement bridge with abutments aligned to the new wider bridge. Just don't expect CP to pay for any of it, since from their point of view, they don't need it. There may be some collateral impacts like possibly having to buy out the cat boarding, and building noise walls to please the condos to the south.

Hopefully Metrolinx can find a window to get the bad news out there in public so whatever the actually feasible solution to this can happen ASAP, and build a couple of switches and add signals to make use to the usable track in the meantime.

 

[crs1026]

Hopefully Metrolinx can find a window to get the bad news out there in public so whatever the actually feasible solution to this can happen ASAP, and build a couple of switches and add signals to make use to the usable track in the meantime.

Confess a material change to a committed project ? Metrolinx ? (giggle)

I wonder if anyone can put a date to when this issue was first flagged, and the decision to defer construction was approved. Then one would count the number of adverts, social media posts, and public statements made since that date which maintained that all is well and 2WAD plans for the Stouffville line are progressing nicely. And then count the number of ML Board meetings where this deferral was not read into the public record. And possibly check Hansard and official reporting to municipal governments disclosing the deferral.

This goes beyond "crickets". It's gross defiance of public accountability.

- Paul

PS - Bad enough to have five year old trams that haven't carried a passenger. We will soon have new platforms at stations that haven't had a single passenger on them for more than five years.

 

[cplchanb]

Confess a material change to a committed project ? Metrolinx ? (giggle)

I wonder if anyone can put a date to when this issue was first flagged, and the decision to defer construction was approved. Then one would count the number of adverts, social media posts, and public statements made since that date which maintained that all is well and 2WAD plans for the Stouffville line are progressing nicely. And then count the number of ML Board meetings where this deferral was not read into the public record. And possibly check Hansard and official reporting to municipal governments disclosing the deferral.

This goes beyond "crickets". It's gross defiance of public accountability.

- Paul

PS - Bad enough to have five year old trams that haven't carried a passenger. We will soon have new platforms at stations that haven't had a single passenger on them for more than five years.

yup.... millikin, kennedy and agincourt stations are all collecting dust.... when will the stoufville line ever be finished...