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Streets like Eglinton, Finch, Spadina, St. Clair, and The Queensway are so wide that red lights are extremely long. European cities solve this with multi-stage crossings—pedestrians wait safely halfway across on "pedestrian refuge islands" (not misnamed "safety islands"), shortening the whole cycle for all. Both pedestrians and transit get speedier green lights (when needed).

Buy since Ontario didn't come up with this idea, we will not get it this decade.
I find the wider the intersection the less pedestrians
 
Ah, come on. I am the first person to complain about woeful misuse of money, but let's be realistic here for a second, exactly how much money would be saved by not having this wrap, and how much extra service would it buy? I'd be shocked if it was enough to pay for one day of operations. This is "milennials would be able to buy a house if they didn't spend so much money on avocado toast" level of arguing. If you have debts, should you never do anything nice for yourself or others, even though the money saved by not doing that would hardly be enough to get you out of debt?

Besides, as @APTA-2048 correctly pointed out, this is a common thing across the world. In Europe, basically any city with an iota of civic pride wraps vehicles for Christmas, often in far more extravagant configurations than ours, even though none of their transit agencies post profits. (They also do other things Toronto thinks of as silly frills, such as having historic vehicles). It cheers people up (well, maybe not people who use online forums, but families, certainly) and it demonstrates some pride in what they do. It's great that for once Toronto didn't fulfill the self-hating, fun-hating Puritan stereotype and did something nice.
If anything, I'd imagine it brings a little (I didn't say a lot) extra revenue for the TTC. It's an attraction, and I see small kids going nuts for it. And, it's certainly closer and more practical than Waterloo Central or Port Stanley's Christmas rail offerings.
 
If anything, I'd imagine it brings a little (I didn't say a lot) extra revenue for the TTC.
I am certainly planning on going out of my way to search for it (and the streetcars), on a day I would've otherwise stayed home, and I can't imagine I'm the only rail nerd who will do that, so that certainly seems credible.
 
Did you just call me a puritan? 🤣🤣🤣

Nope.

I just didn’t know about the Holiday train.

I did say Bah Humbug, as a joke. ⛄❄️🎄

Merry Christmas everyone!

In fairness, I don't think @T3G said that of you; he suggested that doing the holiday train was not giving into the City's reputation for being Puritan.
 
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Streets like Eglinton, Finch, Spadina, St. Clair, and The Queensway are so wide that red lights are extremely long. European cities solve this with multi-stage crossings—pedestrians wait safely halfway across on "pedestrian refuge islands" (not misnamed "safety islands"), shortening the whole cycle for all. Both pedestrians and transit get speedier green lights (when needed).

Buy since Ontario didn't come up with this idea, we will not get it this decade.
We have it on University Avenue, and it's complete BS. A pedestrian trip across a street, no matter how wide, shouldn't take 3-4 minutes.
 

Did anyone else not know the TTC ran a Holiday Train??

Better, faster service might be a better use of our tax dollars.

Bah humbug! 🤶⛄

At least they didn't wrap the windows up. I really think wraps that cover windows on trains or buses should be banned. It makes the inside dark in the middle of the day. We should be able to have a clear view of our surroundings, especially on a streetcar or bus. Also all that plastic wrap is horrible for the environment.
 
Reminds me of the holiday train in the Moscow subway. Except theirs is a vintage Ej3 type train from the 1970s, built with what is arguably 1950s (or earlier) tech.
 
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I also noticed over the past week that as part of this update, the Rocket trains (at least on Line 1) also show the line number before the destination on the signs at each end of the train - i.e. "1 Finch".
This is what I was referring to:
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