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Finch West Line 6 LRT

T3G said:
No, they are not "forced" to do anything.

The TTC's safety conventions are the product of their own paranoia.
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Actually because of the lack of funding to operate at a good service speed. Because of the lack of funding, they have to operate at the safe speed under the conditions provided.
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
Actually because of the lack of funding to operate at a good service speed. Because of the lack of funding, they have to operate at the safe speed under the conditions provided.
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Can you explain what specifically is being underfunded, whose inclusion would allow the TTC to relax a bit with safety stipulations? The only possible answer I can think of to this question is the absence of signals that show which direction the track is set in, though their inclusion in no way would guarantee an option to speed up, since they can also malfunction or just be wrong. The rest of it is all just the TTC's own paranoia. And how is underfunding a relevant argument in the case of a brand new transit line that hasn't even been opened yet?
 
T3G said:
The rest of it is all just the TTC's own paranoia.
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Yep, it's a culture of defaulting to safe failure instead of trying anything with any kind of risk, no matter the upsides it would bring. Endemic to our entire public service unfortunately.

And I know from an insurance perspective this is unserious, but I would rather a lifetime of fast streetcars with a few crashes here and there, then a lifetime of crawling streetcars (that I would realistically abandon for a car when opportune)
 
Monarch Butterfly said:
Read Steve Munro's article dated April 15, 2025 "TTC Major Projects Update and Funding Shortfalls" at https://stevemunro.ca/2025/04/15/ttc-major-projects-update-and-funding-shortfalls/ as a start. Especially with the feeder buses to both Line 5 and Line 6.
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This is the capital budget. I don't see anything in here referring to the Finch LRT - and I struggle to think what there would be, given that Metrolinx is doing the capital works.

Feeder bus lines? Surely those are being reduced over the current situation, with shorter routes, and far less service on Finch itself. There's no shortage of buses anyhow.

Is there a particular project related to the Finch LRT that you are thinking about?
 
jmi22 said:
Yep, it's a culture of defaulting to safe failure instead of trying anything with any kind of risk, no matter the upsides it would bring. Endemic to our entire public service unfortunately.

And I know from an insurance perspective this is unserious, but I would rather a lifetime of fast streetcars with a few crashes here and there, then a lifetime of crawling streetcars (that I would realistically abandon for a car when opportune)
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The irony is that we build freeways (or whatever you want to call them) which are designed for high speed travel in cars by ordinary people with other jobs. Public transit can and should be the same high speed travel (except for those frequent stops along the way), but done by drivers who are better trained and drive for a living. As a traveller, or even just a pedestrian walking beside a road, which do you trust more?
 
*Crosspost to the Bikeshare Thread*

Most or all of the Bikeshare stations along the route are being removed for some type of construction.

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TOtramz said:
That's a lot of sidewalk restoration for a project that is reportedly finishing the RSD soon!
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It sounds like they've just discovered a lot of things need to be ripped up and redone. Perhaps we should no longer expect ithe line to open this year.
And if they don't want us to jump to that conclusion, you'd think they would give more explanation as to what this is about.
 
A 6264 said:
It sounds like they've just discovered a lot of things need to be ripped up and redone. Perhaps we should no longer expect ithe line to open this year.
And if they don't want us to jump to that conclusion, you'd think they would give more explanation as to what this is about.
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https://assets.metrolinx.com/image/..._Update_Norfinch_Oakdale_to_Driftwood_FAW.pdf

"crews will continue to do remedial works forcurb, sidewalk, milling, road, utilities, landscaping, and paving"

Yea I don't think it's related to anything too major
 
Finch has been continually replacing sidewalks, they never stopped. Maybe they are specfically redoing the bikeshare areas. I don't think minor civil works should impact the opening, a keen observer might notice there is a not insignifcant portion of the line where the road/sidewalk/cyletrack hasn't even really started yet.
 
Allandale25 said:
globalnews.ca

Finch West LRT tests ‘proceeding well’ but opening date still not available - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

Roughly a month ago, on Sept. 18, the Toronto transit line entered its final major phase of testing, operating as if it were open to the public, but behind closed doors.
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From the article: “There are still additional steps that need to be taken after this phase to ensure the line is safe and reliable before opening - including a bedding in period to further test the system and independent certification.”

So much for RSD being the final testing phase.
 
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