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Rascacielo

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Our designs are so amateurish compared to what we see out there in the world.
I think it’s partly because we’re a conservative city architecturally. Another reason is that the powers that be (and many of the citizens too) are penny pinchers when it comes to spending money on publicly funded projects. Some Torontonians were outraged over the cost of the giant floating duck in Harbourfront a few summers ago and are still sore about how expensive the pink umbrellas at Sugar Beach are - try selling the idea of spending hundreds of millions of $ on civic buildings to them.
 

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Our designs are so amateurish compared to what we see out there in the world.
If you go right back to the start of this thread, you will see that the design we have was the winner of an international competition. You may think it could be better (most things could be!) but amateurish it is not!
 

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Speaking of unconventional market buildings, would you rather have this?

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Source: Wikipedia

Those interior windows actually belong to the apartments that come with the building, some with 'windows' on their floors! BTW, it's in rotterdam.
While as fantastic as that looks, ours has no residential components to it and serves more than just a market in function. As well as, the width of the lot of our new/revised market being built likely could not accommodate something like that. This is not to give excuses for conservative designs or value-engineering...it's just the shape and dimensions of the Rotterdam example would be hard sell here for all practical reasons and purposes.
 

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While as fantastic as that looks, ours has no residential components to it and serves more than just a market in function. As well as, the width of the lot of our new/revised market being built likely could not accommodate something like that. This is not to give excuses for conservative designs or value-engineering...it's just the shape and dimensions of the Rotterdam example would be hard sell here for all practical reasons and purposes.
For sure, I’m not saying we should transplant the Rotterdam market here. It’s 120 m long, much bigger than this site. This is after all the annex to the main market (south building), while theirs is probably the main market.
 

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Great pics folks. Just curious, are all the footings poured for the rest of the structural steel?
Here’s a shot of them from market lane.
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What’s gonna be on the ground level in between the two big buildings . I cant Find any renderings .
 

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