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November 2020 US Election

If the Dems have the Senate they'll go hog wild on court packing, tax increases, identity politics, citizenship for illegals, minimum wage increases, alternative energy, student loan relief, and expansion of Obamacare and all areas of government to such a degree that a GOP victory in the 2022 mid-terms and 2024 presidential race will be all be assured. Instead, a split Congress will stifle the radial leftists in the Senate and force both sides to work together, or not work at all, both scenarios are likely acceptable to the public. This election was about getting rid of Trump, not changing the political or social direction of the country.

What do you think they are - Republicans over the past decade? And yes, the "forcing both sides to work together" thing worked oh so well during that same period of time. I mean, who went hog wild packing the courts? :rolleyes:

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

AoD
 
All noble things that should be implemented.
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Hopefully, this serves as a message to the Democrats that they need to abandon the Socialist far left and return to the centre. Republicans might need to do the same thing.
I think many, if not most, would look at Biden winning the ticket as just that - abandoning the socialist far left and a return to the centre. And even so, the number of elected socialists in the Democratic party can be counted on fingers. It's not like it is a tidal wave or anything.

I just heard on CNN that a source from Trump's inner circle is convinced that if he loses, he'll run again in 2024...
And if the GOP won't take Donald J. Trump or Donald Trump Jr. at the top of the ticket, they'll start the Trump party. Which would be good for the Democrats, at least, electorally.
 
I think many, if not most, would look at Biden winning the ticket as just that - abandoning the socialist far left and a return to the centre. And even so, the number of elected socialists in the Democratic party can be counted on fingers. It's not like it is a tidal wave or anything.


And if the GOP won't take Donald J. Trump or Donald Trump Jr. at the top of the ticket, they'll start the Trump party. Which would be good for the Democrats, at least, electorally.


When people say radical in terms of Dems it has more to do with policy's the extreme side of the party want and to be clear most of the party or Dems supports would not stand for.
 
Asides from the necessity of extracting Trump because he’s a monster I don’t see a blue wave as a desirable outcome.

I see two primary purposes to voting: exercising a check on power, and having a representative diversity of interests contribute to the balance of power dynamic.

Populism seems to have devolved the idea into an identity team building exercise.

Truth as I see it is none of these guys are on your team. They should be viewed as barely tolerable annoyances you simultaneously need to project your interests and at the same time need to protect yourself from.
 
Quick wrap up on U.S. Ballot initiatives.

As previously noted, Oregon has voted to decriminalize personal possession/use of all drugs; and Florida voted for a minimum wage of $15USD by 2026

Also passed:

1) New Jersey, Arizona and South Dakota all legalized recreational marijuana.

2) Colorado voted for Paid Family Leave

3) Colorado also voted to restore Grey Wolves (currently extirpated); that one was a squeaker 50.3% in favour.

4) Arizona actually voted to rise income tax on high earners (over 250k, to support public education)
 
They really need to perhaps find a more efficient way to count votes in the various states. The glacial pace is mind boggling. Feels like an election in 1820, not 2020.

We have the technology!

Ironically, the pandemic's validation of mail-ins has also revalidated glacial voting pace--consider the BC and Sask elections, and how neither has "final" figures as of yet.
 

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