xmyth_
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It would have to be deeper than the subway and all the condo parking lots no?
Toronto 281 Front Street East | 152m | 46s | BRL Realty | Diamond Schmitt
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Not, it would need to fit around all the existing pipes and tunnels but it does this in the area it covers now - which is filled with them. Their pipes run under streets not buildings so condo garages would not be a problem and if they had cooling pipes running under, say, Front Street it would allow lots of these buildings to hook up to it too
Northern Light
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Fresh lobbying here from a new player:
Tuscani01
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Flipping to residential. Multi-tower development.
xmyth_
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I totally get it, and it’s not unexpected with the subway. But I also can’t help but feel like in 2025-2026 there’s a far greater firehose of money for data centres than a residential tower.
evandyk
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Sure, but they're not going to open up the firehose on the most expensive land in the country.
UtakataNoAnnex
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Filling it with actual people instead of LLM's...
xmyth_
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Current data centre always seemed to brag about its 19 total employees. Always made me wonder about that empty space by the windows that had a makeshift table in it for years
ProjectEnd
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LUVIT!
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Wow much better use of the site especially considering the proximity to the new Corktown station!
Northern Light
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Quick notes for @Paclo
Max Height: 46s
Arch. Diamond Schmitt
From the above:
Comment: For now, just this, the plaza will not work as envisioned. Too little sun, there are ways to address this.....but if the built form were retained, it should be cut back to just a single, shade tolerant tree.
Really though, any plaza needs either good southern or western exposure.
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Milaisacat
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One of the challenges, as I understand it, of an urban data centre is providing emergency backup power. There's a older-ish industrial building at 75 Fima Crescent that has been retrofitted as a data centre and, from the GO Train, the defining feature of this work has been the introduction of a whole bunch of freestanding diesel backup generators.
Here's a 2024 aerial from the City of Toronto that shows the growing fleet of the things out back. Recently they have added four (I think) even larger ones with space for still more.
One technique for providing data centres with brief emergency power without depending on generators, or to bridge to the generators coming online, is kinetic energy storage (aka, the absolute nightmare fuel that is modern high-speed flywheel mechanical electricity storage).
Here's a 2024 aerial from the City of Toronto that shows the growing fleet of the things out back. Recently they have added four (I think) even larger ones with space for still more.
One technique for providing data centres with brief emergency power without depending on generators, or to bridge to the generators coming online, is kinetic energy storage (aka, the absolute nightmare fuel that is modern high-speed flywheel mechanical electricity storage).
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xmyth_
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I imagine like most buildings, the plaza exists for the form of the building, not to be a successful plaza in and of itself.
That being said. Build it. Do it. Make it. Travel back in time and start it 5yrs ago. I am disappointed they couldn’t make some deal and get the car lot in the development.
saw someone on Twitter say “of course they’re tearing down the Imperial Tavern, you can’t expect a two storey building at the cities biggest intersection” and I need that energy here.
Millions visit the Distillery every year, and coming from the King streetcar they’ve walked by a Porsche dealership/carwash/rental truck lot/construction, cop shop, book depository/empty lot, data centre, car dealership storage. Where’s the noise for all this poor land management?
The way they used the housing crisis to go 20 storeys above what the Triangle lands were cleared for - all the while this space sat dormant- ridiculous.
That being said. Build it. Do it. Make it. Travel back in time and start it 5yrs ago. I am disappointed they couldn’t make some deal and get the car lot in the development.
saw someone on Twitter say “of course they’re tearing down the Imperial Tavern, you can’t expect a two storey building at the cities biggest intersection” and I need that energy here.
Millions visit the Distillery every year, and coming from the King streetcar they’ve walked by a Porsche dealership/carwash/rental truck lot/construction, cop shop, book depository/empty lot, data centre, car dealership storage. Where’s the noise for all this poor land management?
The way they used the housing crisis to go 20 storeys above what the Triangle lands were cleared for - all the while this space sat dormant- ridiculous.
HighRiser
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Another sterile glass ground floor. I do not understand how the City is still making this mistake. It's become the norm and it is killing the street presence of the city. This pattern should have been rectified years ago, instead the city seems to be doubling down on it. It hurts my soul each time I see it.
blitzraj1
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I agree. A glass podium just feels out of place here. In a historic area like St. Lawrence and the Distillery District, the podium should really reflect the brick and heritage aesthetic instead of looking overly modern.
A brick-oriented design would blend way better with the police station across the street and even the theatre a block away. It would make the whole stretch feel more cohesive.
A brick-oriented design would blend way better with the police station across the street and even the theatre a block away. It would make the whole stretch feel more cohesive.