Toronto Park Lawn GO Station | 14.41m | 2s | First Capital | Hatch

Fil111 said:
This makes me wonder when the station would realistically be built. Im assuming it would be built the same time as those first few condos.
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If the market hadn't crashed, there likely would have been movement on this last year.

The developers are required to have the station open for when the first residents move in, so no doubt construction will start on it in time to coordinate with the first phase here, however First Capital and Pemberton manage to finance those buildings (whether as rentals or once the condo market returns). In the meantime, we are all stuck waiting for the economics to work again.

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interchange42 said:
If the market hadn't crashed, there likely would have been movement on this last year.

The developers are required to have the station open for when the first residents move in, so no doubt construction will start on it in time to coordinate with the first phase here, however First Capital and Pemberton manage to finance those buildings (whether as rentals or once the condo market returns). In the meantime, we are all stuck waiting for the economics to work again.

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I guess this is the problem with relying on the private sector to build public infrastructure.
 
Some recent activity on the 2150 Lake Shore Phase 1site, for which Park Lawn GO station is a prerequisite. You can see photo updates in that thread:

Full Metal Junkie said:
Ever since Cirque du Soleil wrapped up and moved out for the season in mid-July, there's been work on the site where this phase of the project is supposed to be constructed. Basically, in the month and a half, they graded the site flat with the exception of couple sizeable mounds of dirt. Here are some shots of the entire site:

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Mounds of dirt are next to the old water tower:

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New worker staging area with bunkies and containers next to the rail overpass:

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The old staging area with a bunch of contained was reorganized a bit:

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The foundation for the future showroom and the white storage shed next to BMO on the intersection of Park Lawn and Lake Shore. No movement on the showroom construction for a year and a half now:

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The station plans appear to be in jeopardy.

Metrolinx planned a new GO station for this rapidly growing area of Toronto. Now it’s in limbo — again​

www.thestar.com

Metrolinx planned a new GO station for this rapidly growing area of Toronto. Now it’s in limbo — again

The proposed GO station was one part of a massive development planned for the former site of the Mr. Christie’s Cookie Factory on Lake Shore Boulevard West.
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“Earlier this year, Metrolinx was informed by the development partner for the proposed Park Lawn GO station that they are pausing work as they review their development plans,” a spokesperson for the provincial transit agency said.

“Metrolinx remains open to the opportunity for a third party to deliver a proposed new Park Lawn GO Station along the Lakeshore West GO line in the city of Toronto.”
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Article in the Star today indicates that this project is, again, on hold.

This illustrates again why TOD is not a silver bullet for transit construction. This is another needed and overdue station that is at the mercy of developer decisions.

The principle behind development charges is they are needed to fund the infrastructure to support new communities. I would venture that the Humber Bay development to date has delivered enough in development charges to fund a GO station. Waiting for First to pony up is a bit moot. (But let's see how they move ahead if ML relieves them of this commitment)

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
Article in the Star today indicates that this project is, again, on hold.

This illustrates again why TOD is not a silver bullet for transit construction. This is another needed and overdue station that is at the mercy of developer decisions.

The principle behind development charges is they are needed to fund the infrastructure to support new communities. I would venture that the Humber Bay development to date has delivered enough in development charges to fund a GO station. Waiting for First to pony up is a bit moot. (But let's see how they move ahead if ML relieves them of this commitment)

- Paul
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It's Metrolinx's model that is the problem, and I don't see them requiring development charges to build a G-d---- Taj Mahal parking garage out in the middle of nowhere (or at stations with nothing but SFHs).

TossYourJacket said:
It's not a parking garage so it's not a thing Metrolinx wants to build.
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It's not a parking garage in the 905.

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Yet another example of how much a failed organization Metrolinx is.

The former OMB bestowed Toronto with a dysfunctional neighbourhood, to which the province doesn't want to pay additional money to rectify the problem that they created. At this point I dont think we'll see any GO Station built here before 2040, which is just completely asinine for what is the 2nd densest neighbourhood in the county.

Imagine that, the 2nd densest neighbourhood in Canada relying solely on slow prodding streetcar line and a road network that basically has 2 points in and out.
 
Amare said:
Yet another example of how much a failed organization Metrolinx is.

The former OMB bestowed Toronto with a dysfunctional neighbourhood, to which the province doesn't want to pay additional money to rectify the problem that they created. At this point I dont think we'll see any GO Station built here before 2040, which is just completely asinine for what is the 2nd densest neighbourhood in the county.

Imagine that, the 2nd densest neighbourhood in Canada relying solely on slow prodding streetcar line and a road network that basically has 2 points in and out.
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There is now plenty of scope to concentrate on how improvements can be brought into play to improve the service and speed of service on that streetcar line. So much of it is political however (Priority transit signals, further separation of the line from vehicle traffic etc), and that it is going to take a political upheaval to make changes in transit philosophy.
 
just east of the creek said:
There is now plenty of scope to concentrate on how improvements can be brought into play to improve the service and speed of service on that streetcar line. So much of it is political however (Priority transit signals, further separation of the line from vehicle traffic etc), and that it is going to take a political upheaval to make changes in transit philosophy.
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I'd love to take an optimistic take here, but no be honest i'm not optimistic about that at all.

I mean just look at how long it's taking to get simple traffic enforcement implemented with the TTC's streetcar cameras. If something as simple as that takes 10-15 years just to implement, what hope do we have for other more serious measures?

There are so called "quick wins" that can be implemented. Why those things still arent being done is really beyond me.
 
crs1026 said:
Article in the Star today indicates that this project is, again, on hold.

This illustrates again why TOD is not a silver bullet for transit construction. This is another needed and overdue station that is at the mercy of developer decisions.

The principle behind development charges is they are needed to fund the infrastructure to support new communities. I would venture that the Humber Bay development to date has delivered enough in development charges to fund a GO station. Waiting for First to pony up is a bit moot. (But let's see how they move ahead if ML relieves them of this commitment)

- Paul
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You are generally correct that DCs are used for infrastructure, but it is infrastructure specifically built by the municipality not the province. Things like roads, sewers, parks, schools, etc etc.
 
Amare said:
I'd love to take an optimistic take here, but no be honest i'm not optimistic about that at all.

I mean just look at how long it's taking to get simple traffic enforcement implemented with the TTC's streetcar cameras. If something as simple as that takes 10-15 years just to implement, what hope do we have for other more serious measures?

There are so called "quick wins" that can be implemented. Why those things still arent being done is really beyond me.
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I agree. I do not think there are any quick wins here. But somehow, someway the political outlook on funding, priorities needs to change. Here is another opportunity to push change.
 
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