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Bordercollie said:
I think the bigger question is why did they build the tunnels 5 years ago and haven been used because the bridge prevents them from laying more tracks. So without that figured out those tunnels are useless.
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The tunnels are useless because the Etobicoke North station has to move first, not because of anything about Resources Road.
Metrolinx bought the property north of Resources many years back. At one time it was intended to be the site of a maintenance base for Blue 22 EMU’s. More recently they have decided it will be the “logistics hub” ie maintenance of way base for the Weston Sub.
I will see if I can find the original drawings from that caper - suffice to say it was always assumed that Resources would be shifted.
And why is Etobicoke North not yet moved? Because Woodbine has not been built to replace it. And why hasn’t Woodbine been built? Because it’s TOD and ML has no teeth to force the developer to get on with it. And why has the developer not gotten on with it? Because the surrounding land has never been zoned to align to a TOD land use, so the development is stalled.
And yeah - those tunnels are a costly but of stranded investment.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
The tunnels are useless because the Etobicoke North station has to move first, not because of anything about Resources Road.
Metrolinx bought the property north of Resources many years back. At one time it was intended to be the site of a maintenance base for Blue 22 EMU’s. More recently they have decided it will be the “logistics hub” ie maintenance of way base for the Weston Sub.
I will see if I can find the original drawings from that caper - suffice to say it was always assumed that Resources would be shifted.
And why is Etobicoke North not yet moved? Because Woodbine has not been built to replace it. And why hasn’t Woodbine been built? Because it’s TOD and ML has no teeth to force the developer to get on with it. And why has the developer not gotten on with it? Because the surrounding land has never been zoned to align to a TOD land use, so the development is stalled.
And yeah - those tunnels are a costly but of stranded investment.

- Paul
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They removed the spur line going to the warehouse so if they made the platform an island they could add an additional track or move the platform to accommodate another track.

At least that would alleviate some congestion seeing that Woodbine station is probably ten years out.
 
Bordercollie said:
They removed the spur line going to the warehouse so if they made the platform an island they could add an additional track or move the platform to accommodate another track.

At least that would alleviate some congestion seeing that Woodbine station is probably ten years out.
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No, because ML will not require passengers to cross a hot track to reach the platform. And the track to the west might have to be moved around.

Etobicoke North will never have two tracks at platform without a tunnel and elevator etc. not gonna do that as a temporary arrangement.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
No, because ML will not require passengers to cross a hot track to reach the platform. And the track to the west might have to be moved around.

Etobicoke North will never have two tracks at platform without a tunnel and elevator etc. not gonna do that as a temporary arrangement.

- Paul
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Bradford Station has a level pedestrian crossing to reach the platform, even used to have a crossing in the middle of the platform, but I do agree they would not set up a new one, especially on a busy line.
 
Voltz said:
Bradford Station has a level pedestrian crossing to reach the platform, even used to have a crossing in the middle of the platform, but I do agree they would not set up a new one, especially on a busy line.
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There was also a level crossing of an industrial spur track on the south side of Bramalea Station to the south parking lot, protected only by warning signs and crossbucks. There’s precedent for storage tracks (Bradford, old Lincolnville, and Georgetown) and very-low-traffic industrial spurs, but not for a mainline.
 
ShonTron said:
There was also a level crossing of an industrial spur track on the south side of Bramalea Station to the south parking lot, protected only by warning signs and crossbucks. There’s precedent for storage tracks (Bradford, old Lincolnville, and Georgetown) and very-low-traffic industrial spurs, but not for a mainline.
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Those situations on non-main tracks will likely have special instructions to "stop and protect" and possibly fixed stop signs - haven't gone looking for the source documents, but pretty sure that trains won't just roll cross those crossings, even at low speeds.

- Paul
 
ShonTron said:
There was also a level crossing of an industrial spur track on the south side of Bramalea Station to the south parking lot, protected only by warning signs and crossbucks. There’s precedent for storage tracks (Bradford, old Lincolnville, and Georgetown) and very-low-traffic industrial spurs, but not for a mainline.
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The one at Bradford is on the main track, south end of the station. Only the east platform seems to ever get used, what was a platform for the west track looks to be used for storage only. The crossing has regular railway crossing arms, and the crossing in the middle of the platform that was closed last year only had a crossing arm on the west side of the tracks, and it's still active.
 
Voltz said:
The one at Bradford is on the main track, south end of the station. Only the east platform seems to ever get used, what was a platform for the west track looks to be used for storage only. The crossing has regular railway crossing arms, and the crossing in the middle of the platform that was closed last year only had a crossing arm on the west side of the tracks, and it's still active.
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I looked things up. The non-main tracks at Bradford have stop signs requiring movements to stop at the pedestrian crossings. The main track has no special restriction beyond radio control of the crossing circuits for local road crossing protection. That pedestrian crossing of the main line seems to be a one of a kind.

The pedestrian crossing at Etobicoke North is non-main track and has special timetable instructions requiring any movement to "stop and protect". It does see CN movements regularly.

Those industrial crossings at Bramalea involve tracks that have been declared out of service, and any movement on those tracks is by special authority only.

The point being - Bradford aside, there is no place where GO allows people to cross a track that may see a moving train pass without added measures. For pretty obvious reasons.

- Paul
 
July 4
There will no UPX Rail service on July 12-13 due to construction that weekend with Only bus service between Union and Pearson. No service for Bloor and Weston. This may also effect GO service as well
 
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